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Re: lugh'a' mughghachvam?



hi my name is dallas i need help i just joined but i need to start off slow


>From: "d'Armond Speers" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: lugh'a' mughghachvam?
>Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:13:42 -0600
>
>
>>From: Janna Roslöf <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: lugh'a' mughghachvam?
>>Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:55:47 +0300
>>
>>jIjatlh:
>> > "be pleased" {bel} + {-moH} = "please" {belmoH}
>> > and it looks like you've also figured out there's a rule saying
>> > "be V-d" + {-moH} = "V".
>>
>>jatlh Holtej:
>> > Not necessarily.  This is what I was trying to express in my earlier
>> > message.  For some words in English there is a "V" form for the "be 
>>V-d" +
>> > {-moH} case.  So, "be pleased" + {-moH} = "please".  But not always.  
>>"be
>> > early" + {-moH} != "early".  "be late" + {-moH} != "late" but "be late" 
>>+
>> > {-moH} = "delay".
>>
>>But then again, "late" and "early" don't end in a "d", either. I said
>>"V-d" to clarify that it should be [enter correct grammatical term
>>here]. (Maybe I should've said "V-ed", btw.) A certain form of a 
>>transitive
>>verb, usually ending in "d". Like "pleased", "bored" etc. I don't know 
>>what
>>it's called in English.
>>
>>I guess my point was that when there's a "V-ed", there is also a "V"
>>(otherwise there wouldn't be a V-ed, either). And you can translate "V"
>>into Klingon by adding {-moH} to the Klingon equivalent of "V-ed".
>>
>>I hope I was able to make some more sense this time. }}:-)
>
>So,
>
>be pleased -> to please
>be bored -> to bore
>
>Let's see, a cursory look through just Klingon vocabulary turns up a couple 
>of exceptions to this formula:
>
>be absentminded -> *to absentmind
>be skilled -> *to skill
>
>I don't think it works.
>
>>mulwI'
>
>-- Holtej 'utlh
>
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