tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jan 10 08:48:48 2003
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Re: [KLBC] De'wI'wIj
Umm . . . actually, most of this advice is wrong (no offense meant to you,
Paul). This is why we need to wait for the Beginners' Grammarian to answer
the question.
SuStel
Stardate 3027.0
----- Original Message -----
From: "...Paul" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [KLBC] De'wI'wIj
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, James Copeman wrote:
> > veQDuj 'oH De'wI'wIj'e'. pIj vagh tupmey Hegh Qu'Homqoq QaplawtaHvIS
('e').
> > vImuSbej!
>
> "MY computer is a garbage scow."
>
> "Often five minutes all over, I certainly hate that it dies while it seems
> to be operating."
>
> Notes: You missed the ' in the { -law' } suffix (should be { Qaplaw'taHvIS
> }. Also, you don't need { -mey } in the phrase { vagh tupmey }. The fact
> that you're supply a number, { vagh } implicitly means the noun is plural.
> Klingon doesn't (usually) require specific notation of plurality if it's
> obvious from context.
>
> > Could you check the above for me, I'm not sure about the 2nd sentence
and
> > the use of the bracketed ['e']. It took me a while to compose but I am
> > REALLY trying to get the hang of this. Could someone explain Sentence as
> > Object for me? I don't get the explanation in TKD.
>
> Actually, you're using the sentence marker { 'e' } correctly here. Your
> main verb is { vImuS } "I hate it" and the object of your hatred is the
> statement that your computer dies.
>
> However, I don't think you should be using { Hegh } "die" for this. The
> machine doesn't have a life, per se, and the English use of "die" in this
> case is really idiomatic. It might be more correct (and actually simpler)
> to say:
>
> pIj QapHa'law' De'wI'wIj 'e' vImuSbej
> "I hate that my computer often seems to malfunction."
> "Often my computer seems to malfunction. I hate that."
>
> Note that there is a subtle distinction between this and:
>
> QapHa'law'mo' De'wI'wIj vImuSbej
> "I hate my computer because it seems to malfunction."
>
> One thing I'm not certain is how to convey the English phrase "for five
> minutes at a time," which is what I think you were trying to say with {
> vagh tupmey } I'll leave that to a real KLBC expert type to help with.
> :)
>
> ...Paul
>
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