ghItlh taD: >I don't have a good mnemonic for the thumb {Sen}/{rIl}. To remember the "thumb-word", I remember the idiomatic phrase for "everybody" {SenwI' rIlwI' je} like this, you can remember two thing at once :-) Quvar. chaq gheb rIlmeH rIlwI' lo' rIlwI'?