tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Sep 04 01:27:13 2002
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Re: Names for noun functions puq'e'
>>i want to have names for those roles. when i called them
>>"nominative", "accusative" and so on (cases), the idea was not very
>>in. so if "roles" are allowed, then we speak of "subject role",
>>"object role".
>>are there any shorter names for "describing another noun role"?
>>"genitive" wouldn't be allowed, as this impies case.
>
>I would call them, respectively:
>subject noun
>object noun
>noun acting adjectivally
>timestamp
>noun with a type-5 suffix
>
>It might be nice to have a more concise way of describing the third
>and fifth functions, but I managed to teach Klingon (I used to have
>DloraH's job) without that terminology, so you should be able to
>learn it. If you want to privately to yourself call them "genitive"
>and "prepositional" no one will know. But if you start trying to
>discuss them on the list using those words, you're going to confuse
>people, get mired in endless meta-discussions (like this one), and
>have some people ignore you completely.
Qov,
"noun acting adjectivally" could be misleading, as an adjective
always follows the noun, afaik.
>puSmo' jatlhwI'pu' DubuSHa' wa' nuv DaneHbe'.
>
>laHlIj DaDublaw'lI', 'ej SuStel DalughmoHDI' jIHagh. (ngo' qan ghap
>Daqel). bIlughchu' 'ej raghbe'meH Holmaj DughnIS Hoch. SuStel
>vIvaq vIneHbe'. jIH mulughmoHbejDI' chu'wI' jIHagh 'e' vItul.
>
>Hoghvam jatlhwI' tlhab vIqIH. tlhIngan Hol yejHaD ghovchu' 'ach jeS
>neHbe'qu'. pagh muv 'e' maq. vIlaj. tlhIbHa'bej nuvvetlhlaH 'ach
>pIm vuDmey. maHvaD lo'laHbej tlhabwI'pu'. morghDI' chaH not
>DItungjaj.
vIyaj 'e' vIQub. qatlho', Qov.
tulwI',
sts.