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Re: KLBC - My day

ghItlh "Gina Robertson" <[email protected]>:
>Today I woke up at 9:00 and prepared <for class>, I couldn't find for class
>so am using to learn.
>Hut pagh pagh jIvem 'ej ghuH <to> ghoj.

First, something about time: We know from Conversational Klingon (the first tape) that klingons say the time like military does on earth:
  {wa'maH Hutvatlh rep}
  "nineteen hundred hours" (7:.00 p.m.)
or shorter:
  {vagh rep bImejnIS}
  "Check-out time is five a.m." 
  ({rep} is "hour")

"I woke up at 9:00"
{Hut rep jIvem}

Instead of "class", you could use {DuSaQ} "school".

TKD 6.2.4. Purpose clauses:
   "If an action is being done in order to accomplish something, or for the purpose of accomplishing something, the verb describing what is to 
be accomplished ends with the Type 9 suffix {-meH,} which may be translated <for, for the purpose of, in order to.> The purpose clause always 
precedes the noun or verb whose purpose it is describing:

{ja'chuqmeH rojHom neH jaghla'} <The enemy commander wishes a truce (in order) to confer.>"

{ghojmeH} "for learn"
{jIghojmeH} "for me to learn"
  +
{jIghuH} "I prepare for"
  =
{jIghojmeH jIghuH}
"I prepare to learn"
(literally: "in order to me learn, I prepare")

[I must admit I don't know exactly how to use the word {ghuH}, it can also mean "be alerted for", maybe someone can give a better suggestion]

Of course, you can now join these two sentences with "and":

{Hut rep jIvem 'ej jIghojmeH jIghuH}
I woke up at 9:00 and prepared to learn 

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>I go to class at 10:28.
>wa'maH cha'maH chorgh jIjaH <to class>.

Again, time: "1028 hours":
  {wa'maHvatlh cha'maH chorgh rep}
  (ten hundred twenty eight hours)
or
  {wa'SanID cha'maH chorgh rep}
  (one thousand twenty eight hours)
(instead of SanID, you can also use {SaD}, it's the same)

"school" - DuSaQ
"to school" - DuSaQDaq
"I go" - jIjaH
  {wa'SaD cha'maH chorgh rep DuSaQDaq jIjaH}
  "I go to school at 1028 hours"

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>I finished my current project.
><current> jInmol jIrIn.
{rIn} means "be accomplished, finished", so when you say {jIrIn}, it is "I am finished". But it's your project that's finished. You make it, 
you "cause" it to be finished. There's also a suffix for that, {-moH} (type 4)
Read TKD 4.2.4:   {-moH} <cause>

"Adding this suffix to a verb indicates that the subject is causing a change of condition or causing a new condition to come into existence."

So the subject is the person finishing "the project", actually causing it to be finished. 

The possessive nounsuffix for "my" is type 4 {-wIj}. {jInmolwIj} is the object, so you need the prefix for "I-him/her/it" {vI-}. The verb is 
{rIn} "be finished" plus type 4 suffix {-moH} "cause", so you get

  {jInmolwIj vIrInmoH} 
  "I finished my project"

I know no word for "current", so I'd suggest "be new": {chu'}
TKD 4.4. Adjectives:
"A verb expressing a state or quality can be used immediately following a noun to modify that noun."

  {jInmolwIj chu' vIrInmoH} 
  "I finished my new project"

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>I come home at 12:30 and do work on the computer
>wa'maH wejmaH juH jIghoS 'ej <do> De'wI' vum.
You wanted to say "12", but you wrote "10".

I suppose you come home at 1230, so you are there already. {ghoS} is "approach, go away from, proceed", but since you are there already, I'd 
use {chegh} "return (to)":
   {wa'maH cha'vatlh wejmaH rep juHwIjDaq jIchegh}
   "twelve hundred hours, I return in my home"
   (juH "home", -wIj "my", -Daq "in/at/on")

If you want to describe the action of returning home, the construction is different. The place returned to is then the object of the verb, so 
we don't need the type 5 locative suffix {-Daq} any more:

   {juHwIj vIchegh}
   "I return to my home"

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>... and do work on the computer
>... 'ej <do> De'wI' vum.
This is one of the cases we need to recast (that is, say it in a completely different way), there are too many things that will not work. {vum} 
is a verb, and there is not really a word for "do something".

You could say, for instance, "I use a computer to work". The idea is the same.
  {jIvummeH}      "In order to I work", or "for me to work"
  {De'wI' vIlo'}  "I use a computer"

Again, like I said above, all sentences can be joined with {'ej}:
   {wa'maH cha'vatlh wejmaH rep juHwIjDaq jIchegh 'ej jIvummeH De'wI' vIlo'}
   "twelve hundred hours, I return in my home, and in order to work I use a computer"
or a more fluent translation:
   "I return at home at 1230, and work on my computer"

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>I go to work at 4:30.
>loS wejmaH jIjaH vum.
Klingons have a 24-hour day, so 4:30 pm is 1630 hours:
   {wa'maHjavvatlh wejmaH rep}
{vum} is a verb meaning "to work, toil". We could describe your "work" as a "place to work": {jIvummeH Daq}, but maybe someone else has a 
better idea?
Anyway, the use of {jaH} "go" is tha same as above, you you'll get:
   {jIvummemH DaqDaq jIjaH}
   "I go to the place to me work"
(In {DaqDaq}, the first syllable is the noun "site, place", the second syllable is the type 5 locative suffix)

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>I come home at 9:00 and work on the computer then go to bed.
>Hut pagh pagh juH jIchegh 'ej De'wI' vum. vaj jIjaH QongDaq.
9 p.m.= 2100 hours = {cha'maHwa'vatlh rep}
the rest is the same as above, so I won't explain again.
   {cha'maHwa'vatlh rep juHwIjDaq jIchegh 'ej De'wI'wIj vIlo'}
   "2100 hours I return at my home and use my computer"

There is a nice adverb for "then, subsequently" in the sense of "and then, after that, by then, subsequently": {ghIq}.
Adverbs come at the beginning of the sentence. 
"I go to bed" is literally {QongDaqDaq jIjaH}, but that just means "I walk towards the bed". I guess you wanna say "go to sleep", "fall 
asleep" or just "sleep". "to sleep" is {Qong}.
So, the most simple translation would be 
   {ghIq jIQong}
   "Then I sleep."

canon example:
   {tlhoy Sop 'ach ghIq Qongchu'} 
   "She eats too much, but then she sleeps soundly"

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Now this was big list of questions, so you got an even bigger list of answers. Don't let this disencourage you, just because it looks so much. 
Just read this mail several times, and think about it. Don't be dissappointed when you can't remmeber everything after one day. Just keep doing 
like you did: practice! Step by step, you will learn.

And forgive me, if I'm going too fast, confusing, or skipping something. I'm still a beginning Beginners' Grammarian ;-)
Ask me any question, even if it's only "Huh?" {nuqjatlh?}. I will keep explaining until you understand.


Quvar
Beginners' Grammarian
  ghojwI'pu'wI' vISaH

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