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Re: jIH vIchuHlu' - Words mentioned earlier but not in the


Thanks for this.. I realise what it took to bother Marc.. I just wish people
couldn't get away with bending the truth the way Keith did..  He could have
just stopped at acknowledging advice from MO but saying the list was vetted
by Mo was what made me really wonder.


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Subject: Re: jIH vIchuHlu' - Words mentioned earlier but not in the

> As keeper of the New Words List, I've made one of my extremely rare
> with Okrand. I REALLY don't like bothering him. This is the first time
> contacted him in several years.
> Anyway, he confirms that there was some limited communication about the
> vocabulary of the novel. All the words came from Keith, mostly from the
> Trek Encyclopedia (with their unpronounceable spellings) and a few words
> were just like we thought they were, existing words with a couple affixes
> thrown on. All of the definitions are Keith's.
> The only thing Okrand provided were spellings using his Romanized alphabet
> use so commonly. He mentioned that he wasn't sure whether he'd be helping
me or
> hindering me in terms of what really belongs on the New Words list because
> items like {Qang}, which already means "chancellor", but Keith used it to
> to a class of battleship. Likely, nobody else has used that word for a
class of
> battleship except that one author in that one book. Do I put in an entry
> because of that?
> I'm not inclined to. The fictional history of the Star Trek world is very
> splintered, between movies, several TV series, novels, cartoons, posters,
> those commemorative plates, chess sets, etc. I don't really feel like I
want to
> chase down every splinter. I think those entries are more appropriately
> recorded in The Extended Corpus Project. I'd prefer to stick to words that
> Okrand was a little more instrumental in providing to us.
> Most likely, I'll add Okrand's spelling of Stovokor and leave it at that
> Okrand gets back to me (IF he gets back to me) on the specific items on
> list. He can't get to that right now. qay'be'. I'm not interested in
> the man.
> Stuff like this feels like I'm deeply engaged in a really interesting card
> with friends who have been into the game for a long time, and there are
> annoying people who don't want to learn how to play, but they want to keep
> adding their cards to the deck, and they wonder why the players aren't
> about the idea.
> Will
> > ja' Lawrence:
> > >Your memory of the specifics is better than mine, so correct me if I
blur the
> > >actual events.
> >
> > I can't correct the record of anything I didn't see.
> >
> > >...I told [Keith} to
> > >send me a list of any other items he needed for his book when he got
back to
> > >New York and he did so.
> > >
> > >Now here's where my memory is fuzzy. In all likelihood I farmed out
this list
> > >for input from various Grammarians. That's what I usually do in such
> > >sometimes just for input, sometimes for extended discussion (depending
> > >whether or not the first round of inputs are in agreement). The results
> > >then passed on to Keith.
> >
> > I didn't see a list.  All I knew was that he needed a word for
> > that didn't imply slavery.  (I still like {lujwI'}, by the way.)
> >
> > -- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh
> >

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