tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jun 12 11:47:33 2002
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RE: Vaj'Hom
- From: "rItlhmoQSuvwI'" <vlodnak@paintballgames4u.com>
- Subject: RE: Vaj'Hom
- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:46:19 -0400
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- In-Reply-To: <3FE2282535F7D1118A270060977894F801B24904@tlc_nt1.tlc4u.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Trimboli [mailto:SuStel@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:26
> To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
> Subject: Re: Vaj'Hom
>
>
> From: "Sangqar (Sean Healy)" <sangqar@hotmail.com>
>
> > Okrand's wording in TKD combined with his explanations of
> > {bo'DaghHom/bo'Dagh'a' lo'} in KGT, which offer no reason
> for assuming
> that
> > the difference is anything *but* size, indicate that the difference
> > *can*
> be
> > just size.
>
> I agree with you. I'm sure the difference CAN be just size,
> but it depends on the particular noun in question. There is
> no way, for example, that /loDHom/ can be interpreted as
> "small man." A /loDHom/ is not a man, it's a boy.
>
> Now, there's an alternative idea. What if Klingons see
> /bo'DaghHom/, /bo'Dagh/, and /bo'Dagh'a'/ as different
> things, the way we see "town" and "city" as different things?
> In some circles, the idea of using a serving spoon to eat
> your ice-cream would be unthinkable, yet one is just a bigger
> version of another, isn't it? Maybe there really is more
> than just a size difference between these words.
>
> Without native Klingons to tell us, we're just guessing.
>
> > But that's just my interpretation. Knowing how the list interprets
> > them, I'm not going to use them for a simple difference in size. As
> > Will recently pointed out, current usage is a more reliable
> guide than
> > arbitrary rules, so I'll stick with accepted list usage.
>
> No no no!!! List usage is NOT an appropriate guide for
> understanding Klingon! The way Klingons use the language is
> to be our guide, not how WE use it. An anthropologist worth
> his salt wouldn't base his research on a culture on how his
> own culture interprets it! To try to piece together how
> Klingon works, we must analyze Okrandian canon, because as
> the fiction goes, all of it came from Klingon informants.
>
> SuStel
> Stardate 2446.8
>
Fiction???!????
You mean there aren't REAL Klingons out there (and among us) speaking
it????
;-)
rItlhmoQSuvwI'
Stardate 2446.8
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