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'e' vIneH

A month or so ago, this was posted by SuStel:

>Spoken by Azetbur during her meeting with her advisors.  They were talking
>about attacking instead of negotiating for help with the effects of the
>destruction of Praxis.  I believe her exact quote is /'e' neHbe' vavoy/,
>though the subtitle reads, "That wasn't what my father wanted."  A good
>translation: using "daddy" in the English would have seemed silly.
>Notice also that the rule that /'e'/ isn't used with /neH/ is broken,
>presumably because it wasn't HER sentence she was referring to, and needed
>SOME kind of object in there.  I suspect this is common if using /neH/ to
>add to someone else's sentence.

What if I wanted to use {neH} with a previous sentence of my own, as an 
afterthought, or at least separate thought:

DIS veb "Europe" vIleng.  'e' vIneH.
I'm travelling to Europe next year.  At least I'd like to.

When saying this aloud, I would pause, to indicate these were separate 
thoughts, and saying just {vIneH} after a pause seems to leave the verb with 
no object (that's how it feels to me, anyway).  Although I guess it could be 
interpreted as a simple non-sequitur:

I'm travelling to Europe next year.  I want it.

This leaves me thinking, 'Want what?'.

Please, no advice that I should just say:

DIS veb "Europe" vIleng vIneH.

Sure, when I'm sitting here writing, I could delete the punctuation and 
simply add {vIneH}  But if I were speaking, I couldn't delete the pause I'd 
just made.  (Just trying to forestall the inevitable "You're making it too 
complex" response.)

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