tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Apr 21 00:11:16 2002
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'e' vIneH
- From: "Sean Healy" <[email protected]>
- Subject: 'e' vIneH
- Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 04:11:13 +0000
A month or so ago, this was posted by SuStel:
>Spoken by Azetbur during her meeting with her advisors. They were talking
>about attacking instead of negotiating for help with the effects of the
>destruction of Praxis. I believe her exact quote is /'e' neHbe' vavoy/,
>though the subtitle reads, "That wasn't what my father wanted." A good
>translation: using "daddy" in the English would have seemed silly.
>
>Notice also that the rule that /'e'/ isn't used with /neH/ is broken,
>presumably because it wasn't HER sentence she was referring to, and needed
>SOME kind of object in there. I suspect this is common if using /neH/ to
>add to someone else's sentence.
What if I wanted to use {neH} with a previous sentence of my own, as an
afterthought, or at least separate thought:
DIS veb "Europe" vIleng. 'e' vIneH.
I'm travelling to Europe next year. At least I'd like to.
When saying this aloud, I would pause, to indicate these were separate
thoughts, and saying just {vIneH} after a pause seems to leave the verb with
no object (that's how it feels to me, anyway). Although I guess it could be
interpreted as a simple non-sequitur:
I'm travelling to Europe next year. I want it.
This leaves me thinking, 'Want what?'.
Please, no advice that I should just say:
DIS veb "Europe" vIleng vIneH.
Sure, when I'm sitting here writing, I could delete the punctuation and
simply add {vIneH} But if I were speaking, I couldn't delete the pause I'd
just made. (Just trying to forestall the inevitable "You're making it too
complex" response.)
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