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Re: KLBC: the pronoun <<net>>



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stauffer, Tad E (staufte7)" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: KLBC: the pronoun <<net>>


> ro'Han said:
>
> BTW, can you tell me how one would say "He should do something" in
> Klingon?
> Is -nIS sufficient, or is there another way? As well, I am mystified
> as to
> the practical use of <<net>>; can you give me some examples further
> to the
> explanation in TKD?
>
> I'll answer this first, and then get to the Othello translation in another
> reply.
>
> For "He should (do something)", {-nIS} can work in many cases.
> For example, if you wanted to say "He should not drink the poison", you
> could use:
> {tar tlhutlhbe'nIS} "He needs to not drink the poison."
>
> However, you shouldn't assume that you can use {-nIS} everytime you want
to
> say "He should..." "Should" can mean several different things in English.
>
> One thing that "should" can mean is obligation. For example, "You should
> visit dear ol' grannie."
> "-nIS" would work in such cases:
> {SoSnI'oy DaSuchnIS} "You need to visit grandma."
>
> "Should" can also mean that something is expected:
> "He should arrive tomorrow."
> We could express this in Klingon as:
> {wa'leS paw 'e' vIpIH} "I expect that he will arrive tomorrow."
> Or, relating to your question about {net}, we could say:
> {wa'leS paw net pIH} "It is expected that he will arrive tomorrow."
>
> To fully answer your question about {net}:
> The pronoun {'e'} refers to the previous sentence. For example, the
> following 2 sentences can be combined:
> {jImoH} "I am ugly."
> {'e' Sov} "She knows that (previous sentence)."
> {jImoH 'e' Sov} "She knows that I am ugly."
>
> The pronoun {net} also refers to the previous sentence. However, it is
used
> when the subject is "one" or "someone".
> For example:
> {jImoH net Sov} "One knows that I am ugly." This implies that "I am ugly"
is
> common knowledge.
>
> Another example:
> {yoH verenganpu' net Hon} "One doubts that Ferengi are brave." This could
be
> reworded as "It is doubted that Ferengi are brave."
>
> So basically, if you were going to say {'e' <verb>lu'}, instead you could
> say {net <verb>}.
>
>
> - taD
>



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