tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Nov 06 22:12:37 2001
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RE: KLBC: Usage of -lI'
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Usage of -lI'
- Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 22:54:00 -0500
>From: "TPO" > When using the type 9 suffix <<-vIS>>, would it be possible
>to use <<-lI'>> > instead of <<-taH>>, or is it always <<-taHvIS>>? > > I
>know that in TKD <<-taH>> only is given, but <<-lI'>> seems similar in >
>usage, so I began to think... (big mistake :)
>
>TKD p43 does say "always" -taH. I do not know if Okrand has expanded on
>this or not. AFAIK it is only -taH.
He has not talked about this or ever used /-lI'/ with /-vIS/. The only
/-vIS/ exception is the proverb in THE KLINGON WAY, p. 95: /QamvIS Hegh qaq
law' torvIS Hegh qaq puS/ "Better to die on our feet than live on our
knees." We've recently discussed this one, and we all seem to agree that
it's one weird proverb, however it's interpreted, and it shouldn't be taken
too seriously as far as the grammar goes. Okrand himself notes that "the
grammatical construction is aberrant: one would expect /QamtaHvIS/ ('while
continuing to stand') and /tortaHvIS/ ('while continuing to kneel')." Take
a look at a thread last month about this proverb.
Bottom line: so far as we know, you must always use /-taH/ with /-vIS/.
SuStel
Stardate 1851.2
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