tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed May 02 09:51:58 2001
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RE: KLBC: Grammer questions
Qov:
> Is Melody Jeffcoat just a different e-mail address of Paul McIntosh, or are
> you different people? Whoever you are, the sentences weren't a bad match
> for you. You have a good command of question grammar in Klingon, yet this
> exercise uncovered a few important points of grammar you need to learn.
"Paul McIntosh" jIHbe'.
> >> Why are there many sticky things under my bed?
> >
> >qatlh QongwIjDaq bIngDaq chaH Dochmey'e' Hum law'?
>
> Rather than correcting this, I will give you the three tools you need to
> correct it.
>
> 2. See TKD 3.4, particularly the last example for how to use -Daq with a
> noun-noun construction.
I was unsure while I was writing this: I knew that the locative suffix
follows the second noun, hence {bIngDaq}. My problem was that the only
word for bed that I know is {QongDaq} (if there is another word out there,
that would solve the problem :) ) So do I treat {QongDaq} as a basic noun
and add {-wIj} to the end of it, or do I put {-wIj} before {-Daq} so that
suffixes will be in the proper order? I suppose the {-Daq} of {QongDaq}
might have nothing to do with the noun suffix {-Daq}, since {Qong} is a
verb.
> 3. Consider a way the type 9 verb suffix -wI' can make your sentence more
> concise.
I don't know what you mean here...
> >> Are there blue cups in the kitchen (galley)?
> >
> >vutpa'Daq chaH'a' tu'lummey SuD?
>
> 2. I said just "cups" not high class teacups. I was thinking more of
> HIvje'. If you rejected that because of the gloss "glass (tumbler)" see p.
> 96 and p. 120-121 in KGT. I think there's other canon too, indicating that
> HIvje' is a general term for a drinking vessel.
I only have the TKD to work with, so I didn't know what sort of a
distinction there was between those two words...actually I think my choice
of words was a bit subconcious: if I think of a blue cup, I think of a
coffee mug/tea cup, because those are generally painted. When I think of a
cup/glass I think of a clear glass container. Of course those are images
that an American of my particular background would think of, probably not
the same as a Klingon. Anyhow, so now I know the Klingon differentiation
of {HIvje'} and {tu'lum}
> >> I won't be present when the shuttle arrives, because I'm going to Earth in
> >> the morning.
> >
> >jISaHbe' pqwDI' lupDujHom, poDaq tera' vIjaHmo'
>
> 3. As far as I know, jaH does not act like ghoS. Its direct object is not
> the destination. I may be wrong here, because there was some new
> information about verbs of motion revealed at a time when I was not very
> active in the language. watch to see if I am corrected on this point.
I don't know either. I was basing that on something taD said:
> > "Arizona" DuSaQ'a'Daq vIjaHlI'.
> >
> This sentence is grammatically correct. However, the verb {jaH} most likely
> only means "go" in the literal sense (i.e., from one place to another). So
> if you're walking to your university right now, it would be fine to use.
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I need a kumquat...