tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Feb 07 03:00:57 2001
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RE: not sure how to say :
Thanks for the answer. I knew I was *almost* there with tIqoywIj
I had not seen the story, she published it yesterday without my full
answer. In the story the character was talking to a child ,actually and
unborn child, so tIqoywI' does make sense as the correct answer.
I often have trouble in making the
literal translations fit into tlhIngan Hol and it seem that I took my
little heart' this way and made it as an object that is not capable of
language instead of thinking of it as a child.
Lt.Commander Maud "malqa" Freifelder l MAJ. Maud Freifelder SFMC(R)
Chief Security Officer USS Triumph NCC-26228 l Military Police
"Triumph Against All Odds" l 622 MSG 2 BN/2 BDE
STARFLEET/Region 2 l "Have Phaser, Will Travel"
[email protected]/aka tfn.net
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Will Martin wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: malqa [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:33 PM
> > To: tlhIngan-Hol
> > Subject: not sure how to say :
> >
> > "my little heart"
> >
> > tIqwIj = my heart
> >
> > The noun suffix *diminutive* is Hom
>
> I'd use {tIqHomwIj} if you were trying to sound humble, like, "My heart,
> which is less significant than an average heart".
>
> > Hom is a type 1 suffix, wIj is a type 4
> >
> > But I also saw that there is a verb for ' be small' [mach]
>
> This would literally be referring to size. {tIqwIj mach} is "my little
> heart" or "my small heart".
>
> > She wants to use the words as an 'endearment'[for a child] in a story
> > that she is writing.
> >
> > oy referred on page 174 TKD might also be used as a noun suffix.
> > [endearment]
>
> If I were speaking to a small child and I were calling him something like
> "my sweet little heart" or "my heartikins" or "my hearty-warty-woogie-pooh",
> then I'd call the child {tIqoywI'}. Remember the child can use language, so
> I wouldn't use {-wIj}. I'd use {-wI'}.
>
> If you are literally talking about the muscles, chambers and valves that
> pump blood around, {-oy} would be a very strange suffix to use on this noun.
>
> I'd be more comfortable telling you what to say if I saw the literal context
> into which this word was to go. Otherwise, the potential for
> misinterpretation is both looming and potentially humorous.
>
> > So I'm really confused as to what to tell her.
> >
> > tIqHomwIj or tIqoywIj [does this even make sense?] or to use mach
> > somehow
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > Lt.Commander Maud "malqa" Freifelder l MAJ. Maud
> > Freifelder SFMC(R)
> > Chief Security Officer USS Triumph NCC-26228 l Military Police
> > "Triumph Against All Odds" l 622 MSG 2 BN/2 BDE
> > STARFLEET/Region 2 l "Have Phaser, Will Travel"
> > [email protected]/aka tfn.net
> >
>
> SarrIS
>
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