tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed May 31 08:46:39 2000
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RE: (KLBC) Use of {-vaD}
- From: "d'Armond Speers" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: (KLBC) Use of {-vaD}
- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:44:08 -0600
> ja' ghaHbe'wI':
> >paghvaD Hon wa' vIghelmeH jabbI'IDvam vIqonta'. lugh'a'
> mu'tlheghmey veb:
>
> chaq lugh, 'ach QIv 'e' vIQub jIH.
>
> >1) jIHvaD 'IH mara.
>
> This might makes me think that Mara is all dolled up for a date with you.
> It might be better to say something like {'IH mara 'e' vIQub}.
Or {'IHlaw' mara}.
> >2) ghot law'vaD moH Humanpu'.
>
> While I'm able to tease the intended meaning out of this, I don't like it
> much at all. Like the first one, {moH Humanpu' 'e' luQub ghot law'} or a
> similar phrase.
>
> >1a) To me {mara} is pretty.
> > (I believe that {mara} is pretty)
> >
> >2a) To many people Humans are ugly.
> > (Many people believe that Humans are ugly)
> >
> >I'm applying Latin grammar to {tlhIngan Hol}, specifically the dative
case
> >to the the noun sufix {-vaD}. I know that it is the kind of thing one
must
> >avoid, but to me both sentences make sense...
>
> Why not say it the way you have explained it in parentheses? The {-vaD}
> suffix is supposed to indicate the beneficiary of an action, and its use
> as an indirect-object marker probably shouldn't be expanded beyond that.
I believe TKD explains that "I believe..." is a possible interpretation of
{-law'} (as in {'IHlaw' mara}). Do we have any examples of it applying to
more than just the speaker, as in {moHlaw' Humanpu'} to mean something like
"we believe" or "it is generally believed"? {moH Humanpu' net Qub} is fine,
just wondering.
> -- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh
-- Holtej 'utlh
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