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RE: KLBC / blue goo from Hell

ja' pIl'o':
>>> nagh  let  vIpe'be'.  not  letchoHbogh  naghqoq  vIlo'.

jIjangmeH vIja':
>> not letchoHchugh, chay' ru'Ha'laH HewmeylIj? yIQIj.

> DI'vI' Hol  vIlo'mo'  qatlhIj.  tlhIngan Hol mu'tay' 
> vIlo'chugh vaj jIQIjlaHbe'. 

> modelling clay never gets hard.

>>> DeghHommey  vIchenmoHmeH  naghqoq  tun  vIraQ.
>>> ghIq  chenwI'  chenmoHmeH  beH  DochHommeyvam.

> nuqjatlh? jImISchu'. nuq 'oS <beH>?

> Then  "my little things" are ready to make mold forms.

OK. <-beH> is a type 2 verb suffix, not a verb all by itself, which is what
threw me.

>>> Qatlhqu'  'abchu'meH  mIw.
>>
>> 'abchu'meH mIw? chaq wot pIm Dalo' 'e' DaHech.

> It is very difficult to measure perfectly/ the process of 
> measuring accurately is darn near impossible/transferring 
> this viscous stuff into a measuring vessel with anything 
> resembling control is like trying to herd tribbles.

Aye, you did need another verb. <'ab> means "have a length of" for long
skinny objects. It is used in sentences like <loS 'uj 'ab chonnaQwIj> - "My
hunting spear is four ooges long". The verb you want is <juv>.

>>> pupnISchu'  <silicone : catalyst ratio>
>>> 'ach  pIj  chenwI'wIj  vIchenmoHHa'.
>>
>> <-Ha'> always goes right after the verb. Also, I think 
>> something like <Hew Hap> might be better than <chenwI'>, 
>> although I can't say for sure.

> Isn't <chenmoH> a real verb? *I* mis-made my mold. I *caused* 
> the mold to not form correctly.

<chenmoH> is <chen> plus <-moH>. Unless we specifically know otherwise,
entries like <chenmoH> and <QeyHa'> in TKD should be treated as stem+suffix
combinations that are in there for convenience. The one exception that we
know of is <lo'laH> - "be valuable". So the <-Ha'> goes before the <-moH>.

> The mold is doing the forming, I am causing it to form 
> (actually, I caused it to be a frustratingly sticky, 
> gloppy mess that will probably NEVER form) this is 
> confusing to me.

So the verb for what the mold is doing is <chen> and the verb for what you
are doing is <chenmoH>, qar'a'?

> <Hew Hap> is more like the positive casting material, 
> the stuff which gets hard and becomes the permanent 
> little ensignia. How do I clearly indicate the negative 
> mold-the thing-which-forms/the form (rubbery stuff) 
> that formed around the modeling clay prototype? would
> <chenmoHghach> or <chentaHghach> or <chenmoHtaHghach> 
> work as a noun to mean "the mold/shaper thing?

This is kind of tough. <Hew Hap> is definitely the positive casting
material. The mold is an entirely different problem. I can't think of a good
way to express the idea, actually. I think you will probably have to go into
a fairly detailed explanation.

> I used <chenwI'> to mean "thing which shapes". The stuff
> I actually sculpted  in the first step(manipulated by hand) 
> is squishy. I was trying to find words to mean "squishy" 
> and another word for the concept of rubbery/bendable/flexible 
> to describe the mold.

<chenwI'> is "thing which takes form", so it would describe the mold *while
you are making it*, and probably the statue itself after you've poured the
stuff into the mold.

> <tun> as soft is inadequate for either of these, especially if 
> I was trying to compare the qualities. I supposed I could use 
> <Ho'Du'  Say'moHmeH Hap rur> for the modeling clay, and 
> <to'waQ rur>, for PROPERLY cured silicone, but that seems 
> pretty weird.

Not weird at all. They seem like perfect descriptions.


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