tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jul 13 08:24:22 2000
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Re: {-Ha'} (was Re: obtuse question)
- From: Carleton Copeland <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: {-Ha'} (was Re: obtuse question)
- Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:24:32 +-400
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ja' charghwI':
> I enjoy the insight here. I've noticed that Okrand definitely goes
> between this "opposite of" meaning and the "undo/do badly"
> the pattern before that stative verbs get the "opposite of"
> meaning while active verbs get the "undo/do badly" meaning.
> Meanwhile, your examples do show that consistency.
ja' peHruS:
> I will be bringing to qep'a' SochDIch a complete (barring having
> missed something) list of stative verbs with {-Ha'} attached. Some
> stative verbs we have already have another stative verb with the
> opposite meaning. Some make little sense (to me). Let's have fun
> seeing what this means to the KLI community.
toH!
This recalls the year-old Battle of SachtaH-Ha', when a lone warrior
desperately persisted against overwhelming odds in claiming that {-Ha'} had
a third meaning. The opposing forces--as numerous as grains of sand on the
winding seashore--were adamant that {-Ha'} could not mean "do the opposite
of" or that, if it did, this sense could be easily derived from the
official "do badly" or "undo" senses.
qa' wIje'meH maSuv!
FWIW, here's my list of *-Ha'-inverted* words. Canon bIHlaw'; bIHbe'chugh,
I've got a qa'meH vIttlhegh all ready to go. Not all are statives, though
these are certainly in the majority.
bel - be pleased / belHa' - be displeased
buS - concentrate on, focus on / buSHa' - ignore
jej - be sharp / jejHa' - be dull
jot - be calm / jotHa' - be uneasy
lay' - promise / lay'Ha' - break one's word
lob - obey / lobHa' - disobey
matlh - be loyal / matlhHa' - be disloyal
naD - praise, commend, approve / naDHa' - discommend, disapprove
par - dislike / parHa' - like
qIm - pay attention, concentrate / qImHa' - disregard
quv - be honored / quv - be dishonored
Qey - be tight / QeyHa' - be loose
Quch - be happy / QuchHa' - be unhappy
ru' - be temporary / ru'Ha' - be permanent
tung - discourage / tungHa' - encourage
voq - trust, have faith in / voqHa' - distrust
yep - be careful / yepHa' - be careless
--adverbials--
batlh - honorable / batlhHa' - dishonorably
Do' - fortunately / Do'Ha' - unfortunately
ghaytan - likely / ghaytanHa' - unlikely
nIteb - alone, acting alone / nItebHa' together
pIj - often / pIjHa' - seldom
qa'ral