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Re: Deixis and direction



jatlh ghunchu'wI':
> I almost completely agree with the
> interpretation that noun suffixes are part of the noun, not part of the
> sentence.  [Type 5 suffixes aren't *quite* that simple, since they do
> migrate to adjectival verbs; one might say they are part of a "noun
> phrase".]


This is an excellent point that I had not considered.  I've discussed the
idea of non-subject, non-object "noun phrases," and I've discussed the idea
of Type 5 nouns being an integral part of the noun and not the sentence, but
I hadn't considered talking about both at the same time.

I agree with you: nouns with Type 5 suffixes are not quite so simple.  But
considering the idea of a noun phrase, which no one seems to have any issues
with, it all still seems to work.  TKD calls the Type 5'd nouns "syntactic
markers," but I think this is just a poor name applied by Terran linguists.
People argued extensibly with me some time ago about /-'e'/ being a topic
marker, saying that canon actually shows it as emphasis, as opposed to what
section 3.3.5 has to say about it.  I don't see this as significantly
different.  Anyway, it's still all just my opinion.

SuStel
Stardate 523.3


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