tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Feb 16 17:29:23 2000
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Re: <<KLIC>> bomuv boneH'a'? (was RE: Two Rules [KLBC])
- From: Qov <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: <<KLIC>> bomuv boneH'a'? (was RE: Two Rules [KLBC])
- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:27:36 -0800
tu'vel qech vIparHa'.
=I like tu'vel's idea.
po'choHbogh ghojwI' law' lutu'lu' 'ej SughaqDI' jabbI'IDghom boje'.
=There are a number of students who are becoming skilled and when you
contribute, you enrich the message group.
cha'logh SaghuHnISmoH.
=I have two cautions for you.
wa': DIvI' Hol bolaDpa', tlhIngan Hol yIlaDchu'. yIbuDchoHQo'!
=One: Read the Klingon thoroughly before reading the English. Don't get lazy!
cha': DIvI' Hol boqonpa' qoj boqelpa', tlhIngan Hol yIqonchu'. yIqon!
yImughQo'. tlhIngan Hol qonmeH mIw SIgh DIvI' Hol 'e' yIchaw'Qo'.
=Two: Write the Klingon completely before you write the English or even
consider the English. Do not allow English to influence the Klingon
composition process.
bomughlaHpa', SuyevnISchugh 'ej SuQubnISchugh, tlhIngan Hol qech
jonlaHbe'law'mo' DIvI' Hol, vaj SuvwI' Hol bolo'choHbej.
=Before you can translate, if you have to pause and think, because English
can't seem to capture the Klingon idea, then you're really starting to use
the warrior's tongue.
toH, jIghaq vIneHchugh, Hoch'e' vImughnIS'a'? muDoy'moH.
> ja' De'vID:
>
> > vaj latlh patlh qech vIparHa'. botlh patlh per lo'lu'chugh, tlhIngan Hol
> > DIvI' Hol je jatlhlu', 'ach jangnISbe' pabpo'. janglaH Hoch.
> > mujchugh QIn, jang pabpo'. chup neHchugh, janglaH je.
> > = So I like the idea of another "intermediate" level. An "intermediate"
> > message would have both Klingon and English, but the grammarian doesn't
> > have
> > to answer it. Anyone can reply [how do I say, "Anyone can be the first to
> > reply to it?"] He would answer it only if it had mistakes, or if he had
> > suggestions.
>
> > > Qapla'
> > > -StaZ
>
> > qechwIj DaparHa' 'e' vItul.
> > = I hope you like my idea.
> >
> qechvam vIparHa'!
> = I like this idea!
>
> jIrap.
> = I am the same.
>
> pagh vIyIv vIneHQo'.
> = I don't want to annoy Pagh.
>
> 'ach po'wI' jIHbe'qu'.
> = But I'm no expert.
>
> <<KLIC>> bomuv boneH'a'?
> = Do you want to join the KLIC?
>
> What if we started the KLIC, Klingon Language Intermediate
> Conversation? All the beginners who are doing really well in KLBC, but are
> still a bit intimidated by the expert conversations (like me), could post
> under an intermediate level. No formal grammarian, anyone can respond, but
> at the same time a mark of KLIC would mean "I'm still not real sure I'm
> doing everything exactly right, so keep that in mind as you read my stuff."
> Just a thought.
Qov 'utlh