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Re: Mu'mey chu'

charghwI' wrote:

: The following is NOT intended to replace HolQeD as a source of 
: definitions for these words. For anyone who doesn't have 
: HolQeD, it is better for you to get it and read Okrand's 
: extended descriptions of these words. I'm definitely 
: interpreting and abbreviating these descriptions here.

Qu'vatlh!  I still haven't received the last HolQeD.  Monday is a postal
holiday here in the U.S., so I'll probably get it sometime next week.
Could I persuade you (or someone else) to post some of Okrand's example
sentences illustrating a couple of the new words in context?

The words for "lid" (yuvtlhe'), "top" (yor & 'aqroS) and "bottom" (bIS'ub &
pIrmuS) are self-explanatory.  From analogy to {ben}/{nem} and {Hu'}/{leS}
I know how {pIq}/{ret} and {waQ}/{wen} work.
: ghal - be jealous (of), envy (v) Examples show it used both with 
: and without a direct object. That implies that you cannot use it 
: adjectivally. Use {-bogh} for that.

Seems pretty straitforward.
: ghIq - then, subsequently (adv). Note that this is not a 
: conjunction, though you can use it in conjunction with a 
: conjunction [grin]. You can't join sentences with it alone. Use 
: it like any other adverbial. It only refers to the sequential 
: sense of "then".

A sequential "then" is something we've needed to supplement {-DI'}.
Examples of {ghIq} would be helpful though.  How is it different from {vaj}
in context?  We know that {vaj} is used in "if...then" statements when the
"then" clause is a consequence or result of the "if" clause -- e.g.
{bIjeghbe'chugh vaj bIHegh}.
: tlhoy - overly, to an excessive degree, excessively, too much 
: (adv) Note that this modifies the VERB and not any NOUN of a 
: sentence. It refers to an action that is excessive and not that 
: the action involves too many or too much of a noun. See {'Iq}. 

Now this one is confusing.  How is {tlhoy} different from the emphatic
suffix {-qu'}, which Okrand has occasionally used in the sense of "too much"?

  tera'nganvaD romuluS HIq jabQo'.  HoSghajqu'.
  They won't serve Romulan ale to Terrans.  Too potent. (CK)

I guess translating this last as "It's very strong/awfully potent" doesn't
change the underlying thought.  How would you use {tlhoy} here?

: 'Iq - be too many, be too much (v) Examples show it used adjectivally. 

I think I understand this one: it's used with nouns, similar to {law'} and
{puS}, right? 

  'Iwchab 'Iq vISoppu'mo' jIrop.
  I'm sick because I've eaten too many blood pies.

  'Iw HIq 'Iq Datlhutlhchugh bIchechchoH.
  If you drink too much bloodwine you'll get drunk.

Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 

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