tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 18 13:56:01 1999
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Re: transitive verbs
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: transitive verbs
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:54:33 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
- Priority: NORMAL
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:19:51 -0800 Ben Gibson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "William H. Martin" wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:09:17 -0800 Ben Gibson
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is a pian a short piano? {{:)>
>
> JiHagh. No just bad speelling
laHqoqvam Daqeqba'taH.
> > loSSaD qoH Hugh SIjlaH qetbogh loD net Sov.
>
> teH.'ach qoHpu' law loSSaD puS. not qoHmey yIHoHnIS. qoH
> DaHoH "Darwin". vInuS vIqaq.
chaq qoHpu' law' law' loSSaD law' puS 'ach Heghchugh loSSaD
qoHpu', ghaytan wo' Dublu'.
> > > chaq marurchuq ‘e’ qay’.
> >
> > chaq marurchuq 'ach majatlhDI' pImbej mu'mey DIwIvbogh.
> > mu'tlheghlIjDaq lujbej mu' <<qay'>>.
>
> nuq mu' Dalu'a'?
Dap 'oH tlheghqoqvam 'ach qechlIj vIyaj. <<chaq marurchuqmo'
qay' ghu'.>>
*subject* ghajlaH mu' <<qay'>>. *object* ghajlaHbe'.
*object* 'oH mu' <<'e'>>'e'.
> > le' be' DaSawta'chugh bIle'nIS. pagh vISawlaH. jISawpa' Haw'
> > Hoch be'.
>
> Haw'a' Hoch be'? yuQvam neH Dab wejSaD'uy' be'. Hawchugh,
> yItlha'a'. be' QaQ DaloS. Datu'pu'. vItu'chugh, tu'laH vay'.
qen taQ ghu'mey law' vItu'. QummeH mI'chaj munob latlh loDpu'
wej be'. QummeH mI'Daj munob latlh loD be'nal. bangHeywI' Da
latlh be'nal. 'ach bang Hutlhbogh be'pu'Daq jISumchoHDI' bItchoH
'ej tlhoS Haw'.
navDaq QIn much cha' be'pu'. <<bang vIneH>> jatlh.
<<wejmaH vaghben boghpu'bogh loD vIlajlaH. loSmaH vaghben
boghpu'bogh loD vIlajlaH. 'aqroS 'oH. loD Qupqu' vIneHbe'. loD
qanqu' vIneHbe'.>> loSmaH loSben jIboghpu' vaj vIjang. ghoghwIj
parHa' be'pu'vam.
maqIHDI' rolwIj chIS legh 'ej jIqanqu' SIbI' 'e' wuq. wejpuH.
tIqwIj gho'. jISaHbe'. 'IHchu' be'vam 'ach lI'be'.
be' vIpoQbe'. jIQuchlaH 'ej jIQuchqang. vItlhejlu'chugh, maj.
vItlhejbe'lu'chugh, maj. jISaHbe'. DaH vItlhejlu'Qo'.
> > ghaytan QongDaqrajDaq Qong wa' loD neH. bIle'ba'.
>
> Do' :) pagh latlh vIlegh. ram jIvum. jaj vum be'nal. pIj
> maQong matay'be'.
Do'Ha'. rut QongDaqrajDaq Suquq, qar'a'?
> > Okay. Above, when you said {... 'e' qay'}, that doesn't work
> > because {qay'}, so far as anyone can figure, can't take a direct
> > object, and you are using {'e'} as the direct object of {qay'}.
> > This is a common error, where people want to say something like,
> > "It is a problem that we are alike." The tempation is to take
> > this word for word and ignore the mechanics of the grammar. What
> > this really means is, "We are alike. This is a problem." Being
> > alike is the SUBJECT of being a problem, not the object, so
> > {'e'} doesn't work here.
> >
> > Basically, you need to try some other tool in this case.
> > {marurchuqmo' qay' ghu'.}
>
> Qu'vatlh. Yeah got that one backwords.
>
> > chaq jIjatlhHa'.
> DuHHa'.
DuHbej. jIQagh 'e' vItu'bejpu'. jIpupbe'bej.
> > This is one of the awkward phases you go through just before a
> > breakthrough. It is a kind of bilingual dyslexia. It means your
> > brain is working out some new pathways and you have to become
> > familiar with them before they become useful to you. Don't
> > worry. It is a lot like the way wounds itch as they begin to
> > heal well.
>
> toH. jImobbe'
naDev bImobbe'bej.
> Ben (DraQoS)
charghwI'