tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed May 26 12:40:50 1999
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RE: mojaq <-jaj> <-ghach> <-ta'> je
- From: dspeers@bigfoot.com
- Subject: RE: mojaq <-jaj> <-ghach> <-ta'> je
- Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:40:40 -0400
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- In-Reply-To: <F1824E0390EBD1118D4C0008C724E4D1C33582@rock-msg-s1.thomtech.com>
> << wa'leS vIchoHqa'ta'[tomorrow, it will again have been fixed],
> approximately at least, teh aspect marker simply indicates that the
> action is not ~right now~ taking place, and the \wa'leS/
> states that the /not right now\ will be tomorrow;
> [[is my explanation syncing with the veterans' golden input?]] >>
> ==============
> qay'be'. The Aspect marker {-ta'} has to show an action which is wholly
> completed. The completion could be wholly accomplished already right now.
This suggests you still view completion as a process, and not a state. Completion cannot
be "partly" accomplished. And the relavant time reference is {wa'leS}. "As of tomorrow,
I will have changed it again." As of tomorrow, my act of changing it again will be
accomplished (intentionally).
> But, because of the time stamp {wa'leS} the whole action will accomplish its
> completion tomorrow.
At the time indicated by {wa'les} (tomorrow), the action will be completed. It need not
"accomplish" that state at that time, it may be completed today, or it may already be
completed, it doesn't matter.
> {-ta'} does not preclude the action being right now, the {wa'leS} does that.
All the {wa'leS} does is indicate that, at that point in time, the action is completed.
The action could occur now, or yesterday, or whenever, so long as it's completed by
{wa'leS}.
> The {-ta'} does imply that the entire entity of action is "intentionally
> perfected."
At least we agree on that.
> Dunbogh paqmey law' vIchupta'. tIlaD.
*aspect* vIyajchu'meH paq Dachupbogh vIlaDnISbe'.
> peHruS
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