tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Mar 18 07:46:11 1999
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Re: Cardassians and Bajorans
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Cardassians and Bajorans
- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:43:13 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 06:52:35 -0800 (PST) david joslyn
<[email protected]> wrote:
> <HI'tuy> is a dictatorship, so maybe <qarDaS HI'tuy> for Cardassian Union
> and <HI'tuy'a'> for the Dominion? On second thought, <qarDaS boq> soungs
> better somehow. Of course, Klingons have no trouble with <jemHaDar> or
> <wey'un>. :-)
Please explicitly identify when you are coining original ideas
for words. Someone somewhere will mistakenly think you are
relating something Okrand said and they will write it down in
their personal dictionary and they won't note the source and a
year from now when someone is trying to put together lists of
words like this, someone will come along and claim that Okrand
used these words. Trust me on this. It has already happened with
other pseudo-words. The most amusing incident relates to the
word {'I'}, which ~mark made up in a side comment on whim. It is
now an official word because when Okrand heard about it, he was
amused and declared it real.
> > : beyjor - Bajor
> >
> > I've also seen {ba'jor} as well as {bajor}, which I prefer as it's the
> > simplest. {beyjor} too closely apes the English for my taste.
Likely, when doing an alien name, "aping" is a good thing.
> > Incidentally, the pronunciation of "Bajor" varies somewhat depending on the
> > actor. Besides, we wouldn't expect Klingons to pronounce it exactly the
> > way natives do. We'll have to wait for Okrand on this one to be 100% certain.
>
> Well, based on the pronunciation of Genral Martok <martaq> (who spends a
> lot of his time at DS9 and thus should know these things) I would guess
> <beyjor> for the planet and <ba'jorngan> for the people. I note also
> <ba'jorngan chIrgh> "Bajoran temple."
It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that the spelling of Bajor would change
between the name of the planet and the name of the inhabitant.
The whole idea of {ngan} is that it gets added to the planet
name to name the inhabitants. Klingon doesn't shift
pronunciation of the vowels like English does in this instance.
> Also, we have <verenganar> Ferenganar,
We do, do we? Nice of you to proclaim that for us. Would you
mind giving a citation for where Okrand gave us this word?
> and <qu'arIq> Quark?
Again, would you mind giving the citation?
> quljIb
charghwI' 'utlh