tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Mar 08 09:16:33 1999
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Re: mu'mey Dajqu'
On Sat, 6 Mar 1999 18:15:39 -0800 (PST) Alan Anderson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> ja' quljIb:
> >tlhIngan mu'mey Dajqu' Sanob
> >(I give you some very intereting Klingon words.)
>
> While these indeed are interesting, each one of your "literal" translations
> is based on a major misreading of one of the parts of the word. And that's
> even before we start to address the issue of trying to make a compound out
> of a noun and a verb, or the issue of trying to tease meanings out of the
> multi-syllable vocabulary words in the first place.
>
> >gho'Do - sublight speed. lit. "stepping speed." From:
> > <gho'> - to step, and
> > <Do> - speed/velocity
"Step on it!"?
I'm not counting this as one of the jokes, but it just struck me
as amusing.
...
> >HablI' - data tranciever. lit. "it progresses smoothly." From:
> > <Hab> - be smooth, and
> > <-lI'> - progressive aspect suffix
> > (This is prehaps a reference to _smoothly_ recieving and
> > transmitting data.)
This word has only been used in one of Valkris's lines which was
filmed in English and then redubbed into Klingon. Okrand was far
too busy matching lip movements to additionally make this a pun.
All of ghunchu'wI' comments here are dead on.
> No way. {Hab} is a verb of quality, meaning "be smooth"; verbs do not act
> as adverbs. {-lI'} is a verb suffix indicating ongoing action with implied
> progress toward a gol; verb suffixes do not by themselves carry a verbal
> meaning. {HablI'} as a sentence *does* have a literal meaning of something
> like "it is in the middle of being smooth" -- which is kind of an odd idea.
> What's the implied goal of a state or quality?
>
> >Last and certainly best:
> >
> >Ha'DIbaH - animal. lit. "let's go kill (shoot) them!" From:
> > <Ha'> - let's go, and
> > <DIbaH> - we fire (missiles/arrows/etc.) at them.
>
> Yes, this one is cute, but {baH} means to "fire" missiles, not "fire at"
> something else ({chuH} has that meaning). If you want to call this word
> {Ha', DIbaH}, it's more like "Come on, we will fire them (from a cannon)."
Again, as is pointed out in another post, this matches lip
movements with "animal". Several times, Okrand had to take a
scene that had been shot in English and give it sounds that had
to sound totally alien, masking the fact that the scene was shot
in English, literally saying what the subtitles say they are
saying. He was originally hired in ST2 to do exactly that with
the Vulcan lines. So, he got good at it and it is reflected in
quite a few Klingon words.
> >Are there any more mu'mey Dajqu'? If so let me know; I'm compiling a list.
>
> I sometimes think it would be neat if {Qu'vatlh} were derived from the
> exasperated cry of a crewman who was just handed his hundredth job of
> the day...but I don't go looking for things like {nIteb} "acting alone"
> also meaning "they fill you" or {HIja'} being both "yes" and "tell me."
>
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
Okay, here are the puns or other funny words I have noted. Enjoy
figuring them out if you haven't already. Some are hilarious and
obvious. Others are more obscure and possibly not even
intentional. I figured I'd save time not explaining them all at
once, and it would give those who know a grin, and those who
don't know a puzzle. Enjoy discussion.
And if you absolutely don't get something, let me know and I'll
explain it:
'ampaS
'aqnaw
'aqroS
'aqtu'
'atlhqam
'aw'
'awje'
'egh
'elpI'
'ey
'IH
'obe'
'oj
'oQqar
'oy'
'ugh
'uH
'ul
'um
'uy'
bach
baghneQ
baqghol
bargh
baS
be'
beb
bech
bey
bI'rel tlharghDuj
[others like {bIghHa'}]
bIm
bIr
bom
buD
chang'engmey
chIrgh
chop
Daghtuj
DaS
DIb
DIr
DIran
Doghjey
Dor
DoS
Dugh [I don't remember why I marked this. Doug?]
Dup
Duq
gha'tlhIq
ghab
ghagh
gham
ghevI'
ghIgh
ghol
ghop
ghup
ghuS
HaD
Haq
Hat
Hem
Hew
HI'tuy
HIp
HIq
Hot
Hum
jat
jav
jaw
jeqqIj
jey'naS
jIl
jIp
jIv
lab
leSpal
lIw
lot
lu
luH
maHpIn
may'ron
meSchuS
mIQ
mIStaq
moD
mol
mon
muD
mul
mun
na'ran
nol
nuD
pa'reD
pang
paw'
peng
pep
pIw
puQ
qegh
qettlhup
qID
qIl
qoch
qompogh
qop
quD
qul
QaD
Qul
rachwI'
raS
rewbe'
rey
runpI'
Sab
Sach [I have no clue why I marked this one]
Sap
Separ
SID
Sup
Sut
tal
tap
tay'
tIS
tlhaS
tlhIq
tlhuD
tul
tum
veragh
vIghro'
vIychorgh
warjun
wejpuH
weq
weQ
wIch
wItlh
wup
ya
yergho
yIntagh
yoq
yu
charghwI' 'utlh