tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Mar 04 21:42:41 1999
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Re: Aspect
In a message dated 3/4/1999 9:00:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Perfective doesn't "take place" at a particular time. Perfective is a
state,
not an event. If "the perfection of the action" has not occurred, the verb
does not possess the perfective quality, so the {-pu'} and {-ta'} suffixes
are not appropriate. >>
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Okay, I have misstated some things about perfective events rather than
perfective states. I will have to be more careful. I have known all along
that "perfective aspect" is a condition, a manner, a way of looking (L.
spectare) at the verb.
Where do you get the authority to say that "If ... ... the verb does not
posses the perfective quality, so the <> {-ta'} suffix<> is [replaces "are"]
not appropriate."? Not from TKD. Although TKD clearly places {-ta'} in the
section entitled Aspect, and says in black and white that it is similar to
{-pu'}, nowhere I read does it say that it is a "perfective." It uses Klingon
grammarians terminology; it is the Aspect known as "accomplished, done." TKD
p41.
The pairing with {-pu'} "perfective" is there. But, the definition of {-ta'}
does not classify it as a "perfective." You alone are doing that.
peHruS