tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Mar 04 15:09:11 1999
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RE: Aspect
- From: TPO <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Aspect
- Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:09:19 -0500
>> -lI' implies that there is a goal. Progress is being made toward that
>goal.
>> It is not simply that 'taH is continuous and -lI' has an ending.
>> -taH is continuous whether there is a known goal or not. -lI' can be used
>> only when there is an implied goal.
>
>bIlughqa'. I would like to clarify a little bit here. TKD says that the
>activity has "a know goal or a definite stopping point", and uses the word
>"goal" through the rest of the text. This strongly indicates that the "goal"
>is not necessarily something anyone set out intentionally to do - it's just
>the logical conclusion of the action. This opens <-lI'> up to a wider range
>of usage than <-ta'>.
I disagree. How can you unintentionally have a goal. A "goal" is your
"intention". You said yourself "...and uses the word "goal" through the
rest of the text." If the act was "the logical conclusion of the action"
and was not intentional, I think you should use -taH, as it is stated in TKD.
TKD p42 & 43
"-lI' in progress
This suffix is similar to -taH (continuous) in that it indicates that an
activity is ongoing. Unlike -taH, however, -lI' implies that the activity
has a known goal or a definite stopping point. In other words, it suggests
that progress is being made toward that goal.
chollI' it is getting closer
(chol get close, come near)
This word would be used for, i.e., a missile approaching a target, when it
is known that the missile has been aimed at that target. If a missile is
getting closer, but its intended destination is not known, choltaH (with
-taH continuous) would be more appropriate.
vIlI'lI' I am transmitting (the data)
(lI' transmit data to a place)
This word implies that data are in the process of being transmitted, but
that there is a finite amount of data, so there will be a definite end to
the transmission. The fact that the verb lI' and the suffix -lI' are
identical in sound is purely coincidental, so far as can be determined.
The suffix -taH (continuous) can be used whether there is a known goal or
not. -lI', on the other hand, can be used only when there is an implied
goal. It is possible to consider -lI' a [continuous] counterpart of -ta',
and -taH a [continuous] counterpart of -pu'."
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