tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 25 11:57:59 1999
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Re: Dap naQ
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Dap naQ
- Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:57:40 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
- Priority: NORMAL
chaq Dap 'ach Daj. vIlaDta' 'ej vItIvpu'.
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:18:52 -0800 (PST) [email protected]
wrote:
> Dap naQ
>
> Can we translate {Dap naQ} as "utter nonsense"?
mu'tlhegh naQ vImugh 'e' vImaS. naQbe' <<Dap naQ>>. vIbuSHa'.
> 1) No. TKD does not give "utter" as a definition of {naQ}. Be conservative!
> Use only Klingon words and grammar constructions MO has used. That is the
> only way we know the correct usages.
*Okrand* mIw rurchugh latlh mIw, qay'be'. pImqu'chugh, qay'.
> 2) Yes. TKD gives {Dap} as "nonsense" and {naQ} as "complete." Anyone who
> speaks English knows that "complete nonsense" is the same as "utter nonsense."
> We don't need to wait for MO to show us how to use words he has never put into
> canon sentences. We can figure them out ourselves.
tlhoS *idiom* 'oH *utter nonsense*. tlhoS taDpu' mu'
chang'engvam. *cliche* 'oH. chaq *cliche* Hutlh tlhIngan Hol.
jISovchu'be'.
> Beginners: If you do anything with this article, use it as a challenge to
> correct the misusages.
>
> Hatlh QaQ 'oH *United States*'e'. *wrestler* vIghov. be' 'IH ghaH. peQ ghaj
> ghaH.
reH be'vam lughoStaH'a' baS Dochmey? Dojqu' be'vam!
> wa'Hu' ghol jotlhpu' ghaH.
Daj.
> gholDaj perchu' ghaH.
tlhe' lutvam. vItlha'Ha'. He vISamlaHbe'.
> juHwIj vIcheghDI' Hurghqu'. leQ vIchu'ta' 'ach HurghtaH. bochbe'.
Hurghqu'chugh Hoch vaj chay' bochwI' DaghovlaH? bochwI'
ghovlu'meH wovnIS vay'. Hurghchugh Hoch, HurghwI'na' 'oHbej
bochwI'qoq'e'.
> 'ul SIrgh ghorlu'.
'ul gho ghorlu'. 'ul gho 'ay' 'oHlaw' SIrghvam'e'.
> DaH SIrghDaq qetlaHbe' 'ul.
qamDu' ghaj'a' 'ul?
> SIrgh chu' vIchoHpu'. vaj paw jIlwI'.
nuq moj SIrgh chu' 'ej qatlh jIllI' pawmoH SIrghvam?
> juHwIjDaq jIchIDpu'.
bIDIS'a'? nuq DachID?
> *chess* wIQuj. {ta'be'}wIj vIDachmoHta'. {ta'be'}wIj
> wegh jIlwI' 'ach jInogh; jInargh.
jImIS. qImlaHbe'mo' Quj 'ay', Dachchugh ta'be'lIj lojnIS.
lojchugh, chay' weghlaH jIllI'? 'ej ta'be'lIj weghchugh jIllI',
chay bInargh 'ej ta'be'lIj Dalon? batlhHa' bIvangpu'!
> Daq Qobvo' jIteq'eghpu'. ghaH vIjuvpu'
> ghaHvaD jInIv 'e' vIDoQ.
bIjuv'a'? jIllI' DanoHlaw', 'ach bIjuv 'e' vIHon.
> jorpu' gholwI' QeH. jach ghaH: SuvwI' lam SoH.
bIHIghlaw', 'ach bIlam'a' je? 'ej bIQujHa'lI'chugh 'ej bInargh,
SuvwI' SoH'a'?
> vIychorgh wItlhutlh. wIbmo' HaQchor puS vIlan. wIbHa'moHghach Duy 'oH
> HaQchor'e' net tlhoj.
Daj. tlhe'qa' lutlIj. vItlha'Ha'qa'.
> lut vIghItlh rIntaH. lutvamvaD nuq 'oH Hap'e'?
wej lutmey pIm vIlegh. Hap luHutlh 'ach Daj.
> tIqDu'raj ghor'a' lut Sarvam?
mu' 'oHbe' <<Sarvam>>'e'. DIpvo' *Adjective* ghoS Segh vagh DIp
mojaq neH. Segh loS 'oH <<-vam>>'e'.
> lutvam yIroQQo'!
not vIwoHpu'. vIlaD neH.
> mujbogh qechmey law' ngu'.
jIQum vIneH. QaghHom vISaHbe'.
> qawHaqDaq yabwIj vImejpu'. maj ram, tlhIH naQ.
DaH Dapna' DalIngpu'.
charghwI' 'utlh