Re: Dap naQ

["William H. Martin" <whm2m@server1.mail.virginia.edu>]

chaq Dap 'ach Daj. vIlaDta' 'ej vItIvpu'.

On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:18:52 -0800 (PST) WestphalWz@aol.com 
wrote:

> Dap naQ
> 
> Can we translate {Dap naQ} as "utter nonsense"?

mu'tlhegh naQ vImugh 'e' vImaS. naQbe' <<Dap naQ>>. vIbuSHa'.
 
> 1)  No.  TKD does not give "utter" as a definition of {naQ}.  Be conservative!
> Use only Klingon words and grammar constructions MO has used.  That is the
> only way we know the correct usages.

*Okrand* mIw rurchugh latlh mIw, qay'be'. pImqu'chugh, qay'.
 
> 2)  Yes.  TKD gives {Dap} as "nonsense" and {naQ} as "complete."  Anyone who
> speaks English knows that "complete nonsense" is the same as "utter nonsense."
> We don't need to wait for MO to show us how to use words he has never put into
> canon sentences.  We can figure them out ourselves.

tlhoS *idiom* 'oH *utter nonsense*. tlhoS taDpu' mu' 
chang'engvam. *cliche* 'oH. chaq *cliche* Hutlh tlhIngan Hol. 
jISovchu'be'.
 
> Beginners:  If you do anything with this article, use it as a challenge to
> correct the misusages.
> 
> Hatlh QaQ 'oH *United States*'e'.  *wrestler* vIghov. be' 'IH ghaH.  peQ ghaj
> ghaH. 

reH be'vam lughoStaH'a' baS Dochmey? Dojqu' be'vam!

> wa'Hu' ghol jotlhpu' ghaH. 

Daj.

> gholDaj perchu' ghaH.

tlhe' lutvam. vItlha'Ha'. He vISamlaHbe'.
 
> juHwIj vIcheghDI' Hurghqu'.  leQ vIchu'ta' 'ach HurghtaH.  bochbe'. 

Hurghqu'chugh Hoch vaj chay' bochwI' DaghovlaH? bochwI' 
ghovlu'meH wovnIS vay'. Hurghchugh Hoch, HurghwI'na' 'oHbej 
bochwI'qoq'e'.

> 'ul SIrgh ghorlu'. 

'ul gho ghorlu'. 'ul gho 'ay' 'oHlaw' SIrghvam'e'.

> DaH SIrghDaq qetlaHbe' 'ul.

qamDu' ghaj'a' 'ul?

> SIrgh chu' vIchoHpu'.  vaj paw jIlwI'.

nuq moj SIrgh chu' 'ej qatlh jIllI' pawmoH SIrghvam?

> juHwIjDaq jIchIDpu'. 

bIDIS'a'? nuq DachID? 

> *chess* wIQuj.  {ta'be'}wIj vIDachmoHta'.  {ta'be'}wIj
> wegh jIlwI' 'ach jInogh; jInargh. 

jImIS. qImlaHbe'mo' Quj 'ay', Dachchugh ta'be'lIj lojnIS. 
lojchugh, chay' weghlaH jIllI'? 'ej ta'be'lIj weghchugh jIllI', 
chay bInargh 'ej ta'be'lIj Dalon? batlhHa' bIvangpu'!

> Daq Qobvo' jIteq'eghpu'.  ghaH vIjuvpu'
> ghaHvaD jInIv 'e' vIDoQ. 

bIjuv'a'? jIllI' DanoHlaw', 'ach bIjuv 'e' vIHon.

> jorpu' gholwI' QeH.  jach ghaH:  SuvwI' lam SoH.

bIHIghlaw', 'ach bIlam'a' je? 'ej bIQujHa'lI'chugh 'ej bInargh, 
SuvwI' SoH'a'?
 
> vIychorgh wItlhutlh.  wIbmo' HaQchor puS vIlan.  wIbHa'moHghach Duy 'oH
> HaQchor'e' net tlhoj.  

Daj. tlhe'qa' lutlIj. vItlha'Ha'qa'.
 
> lut vIghItlh rIntaH.  lutvamvaD nuq 'oH Hap'e'? 

wej lutmey pIm vIlegh. Hap luHutlh 'ach Daj.

> tIqDu'raj ghor'a' lut Sarvam?

mu' 'oHbe' <<Sarvam>>'e'. DIpvo' *Adjective* ghoS Segh vagh DIp 
mojaq neH. Segh loS 'oH <<-vam>>'e'.

> lutvam yIroQQo'! 

not vIwoHpu'. vIlaD neH.

> mujbogh qechmey law' ngu'.

jIQum vIneH. QaghHom vISaHbe'.
 
> qawHaqDaq yabwIj vImejpu'.  maj ram, tlhIH naQ.

DaH Dapna' DalIngpu'.
 
charghwI' 'utlh