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Re: qama'

ja' peHruS:
>Are you considering {ju-} containing both a subject "you" and and object "us"?

Certainly.  That's the only possible meaning, according to the chart
on page 33 of The Klingon Dictionary.  It's also the way {jura'} is
explained in the detailed breakdown of {chay' jura'} on page 70.

>Uh-oh.  This is where Klingon differs from English but not from so many
>American Indian languages of the western United States and Melanesian and
>Micronesian languages, Mayan, Quechua, and Swahili (there might be many more
>that I do not know about).  The pronominal prefix is not a subject+object
>combination at all.   People who think in English might see it that way; but
>it is not true.  The pronominal prefix, by definition of being a pronominal
>and a prefix, is a directional prefix.  The prefix says who is doing the
>action of the verb to whom.  But, the subject of a sentence is a separate word
>and the object of the sentence is a separate word.

The Klingon Dictionary disagrees with you (again).  The relevant section
is small; I will state it in its entirety here.

TKD section 4.1. "Pronominal prefixes", page 32:
|  Each Klingon verb begins with a single prefix that indicates
|  who or what is performing the action described by the verb
|  and, when relevant, who or what is the recipient of that
|  action.  In other words, Klingon verb prefixes indicate both
|  the subject and the object of the sentence.

The next section contains a sentence that underscores the idea:
|  Note that both the subject and the object are combined into a
|  single prefix.

-- ghunchu'wI'

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