tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Dec 27 05:41:32 1999
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Re: Verbs of Motion
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Verbs of Motion
- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:40:48 -0500
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <[email protected]>
The verbs which Okrand claimed have a special relationship with their
objects in HolQeD Vol. 7 No. 4 are
ghoS
jaH
leng
paw
These, Okrand says, act just like {jaH}.
He also lists several other verbs. When asked about {bav}, Okrand says "You
don't need a {-Daq}. Just use whatever it is that you are orbiting." Does
this mean that it ISN'T one of these special verbs?
When subsequently asked about {Dech}, Okrand says "Same thing." Does this
mean "Same as {bav}?" In fact, there are several verbs which are the "same
thing."
bav
Dech
ngaS
vegh
'el
Note that Okrand says you can say {pa'Daq vI'el}. This suggests that {'el},
which is one of the "same" verbs, does this funky object thing too. Thus,
all of the ones listed might.
It's unclear whether these two lists should be joined. Personally, I hate
this part of the interview, for reasons which Captain Krankor brings up in
HolQeD Vol 8, No 1. It breaks everything we thought we knew about Klingon.
I don't know about everyone else, but I am getting the distinct impression
that Okrand doesn't have a strong handle on Klingon (whoever claimed that he
does?), and simply cannot maintain consistency.
SuStel
Stardate 99987.9
----- Original Message -----
From: James R. Johnson <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:43 AM
Subject: Verbs of Motion
I was recently trying to remember which verbs act like ghoS and jaH, and I
can only remember chegh and paw. Are there any others (such that something
like X-Daq jI-Y means "I Y in the X" or X-(Daq) vI-Y means "I Y to the X")?
Telleres