tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 30 10:31:05 1998
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Re: KLBC: ngotlhwI' ghom
- From: [email protected]
- Subject: Re: KLBC: ngotlhwI' ghom
- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:30:47 EDT
In a message dated 6/29/98 5:58:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
> You're trying to say "If there will be someone there who speaks
> Klingon, maybe we can meet."
Yeah. Isn't _anyone_ going to be there??
> *{pa' vay' ghaHchugh}
>
> Does this seem like a valid construction to you?
Well, no, not anymore... ;)
> What sort of
> sentence are you trying to make here? I suspect you've either lost
> track of the syntax because it was masked by the relative clause, or
> you're looking at pronoun as to be (PTB) structures like:
>
> pa' ghaHtaHchugh - if s/he will be there
> pa' ghaHchugh vay'e' - if someone will be there
Yes, pretty much. I think the last paragraph of TKD's "to be" section was
something I forgot to reread when I rejoined the mailing list...hence the
missing *'e'*. :-/ Doesn't help that I'm still composing sentences
"backwards" for Klingon, English-style. "lost" would be the operative word
here. =)
> pa' ghaHtaHchugh tlhIngan Hol jatlhbogh vay''e' ...
Yep, that's how it should have gone...
> > wej tlhIngan QIch vIQoypu'be'.
>
> That implies that you have continuously heard Klingon all your days.
> {wej} means "not yet" so the {-be'} is contradictory to your meaning.
Uggh, I was afraid of that. Double negatives are some of the most hilarious
aspects of languages, imo.
> qep'a' wejDIch vIghoSpa', rejmorgh vIDa. not tlhIngan Hol jalthbejwI'
> vIQoypu' 'ej wa'logh BGvaD jIjatlhpu'DI', ghogh HablI' wIlo'taHvIS,
> muyajbe'.
toH. DaH BG Duyajbe'bogh Dacho'ta'.
> jIqeqqa'. Qanqor vIrI'. muyaj 'ej vIyajlaH. jIQuchqu'choH
> 'ej qep'a'Daq muyaj po'wI'pu'. loQ Huj QIchwIj 'ach vIlISlaH.
jItaghDI' paqmey nojwI'Daq [library] ghogh tamey [cassette tapes] vIngIp 'ej
bIH vIQoyqu' 'ej mu'mey vIjatlh. tlhIngan Hol vIghojchu'be' 'ach jIpaSmo' rup
tIn vIDIl. =)
> mu'rI' neHchugh taghwI' vIjatlhqangbej. HI*e-mail* 'ej poH wIwuq.
*eeek*!! ghotna'vaD jIjatlhrupbe'!!! wa'DIch jIqeqnISbej. 'ebmo'
chonobpu'bogh qatlho'. (Can I put suffixes on the head noun like that?) chaq
tugh jIlajlaH.
> Speaking of qep'a', when will we see you there? :)
qep'a' botIvqu'law'. qep'a' vaghDIchDaq jISaH vIneH 'ach ghaytan jIjaHlaHbe'.
Heehee...I'm very, very grounded at the moment, so I doubt a road trip to
Bensalem, PA is anywhere on the horizon. <wince> I think the registration
deadline has passed, anyway? Hopefully next year.
--notjISaH