tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jun 25 07:05:38 1998
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Re: suffixes in comparative sentences
- From: "Anthony Appleyard" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: suffixes in comparative sentences
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:05:20 GMT
- Organization: Materials Science Centre
- Priority: normal
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
Anthony Appleyard <[email protected]> wrote:-
> In my absence, has a solution to this query been worked out?:- ...
> But where do mood-altering suffixes go in comparative sentences? ...
"David Trimboli" <[email protected]> replied:-
> Klingon for the Galactic Traveler goes into detail about the {law'/puS}
> sentence. It doesn't say much about what doesn't work directly, but it does
> say that the sort of slang you can do is allowed BECAUSE the {law'/puS}
> sentence is so unique and recognizable. This is an extreme implication that
> {law'/puS} can't be played with except as indicated in KGT.
But not an actual statement. To me, a {law'/puS}-type construction is still
easy to recognise with a suffix on the {law'} and/or the {puS} or on the main
adjectival verb: "My ship is obviously bigger than Maltz's" would be (0)
**{DujwIj tIn law'ba' matlh Duj tIn puS(ba')}
But "the ship which is bigger than Maltz's" (1) **{Duj'e' tIn law'bogh matlh
Duj tIn puS} indeed turns out to come from the same shipyard as that old
marauder "the ship in which I fled" (2) **{Duj'e'Daq jIHaw'pu'bogh}, as both
contain an illegally placed {-'e'}.
(2) has twinned class N5 suffixes: ref. much previous discussion.
(1) has a class N5 suffix ({-'e'}) on a noun which is nonfinal in a genitive
sequence, if the (tIn}'s are treated as nouns. If the {tIn}'s are treated as
adjectival verbs and the {law'} and the {puS} as adverbs, {Duj} is no longer
in a genitival position, and (0) would be **{DujwIj tIn'ba law' matlh Duj
tIn(ba') puS}, and (1) would be **{Duj'e' tInbogh law' matlh Duj tIn puS}
Best ask Okrand.