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Re: jIchegh / more puns?



Stardate 9806.3

"Klingon Ambassador" Dawut here, re-entering the mix and commenting 
sporadically again.

This was written:

>> No, the original post was right.  To count in base three, it's 0, 1, 
2, 10,
>> 11, 12, 20, 21, 22, 100, 101, etc.
>> 
>well, that's how mathematicians count in base three...
>it presupposes the concept of "zero"
>
>and I would have expected this to be described as
>1, 2, 1x3 (+0), 1x3 +1, 1x3 +2, 2x3 (+0), 2x3 +1, 2x3 +2
>1x3^2 (+0x3 +0), 1x3^2 (+0x3) +1 etc.
>
>instead, Okrand's description of 1, 2, 3, 3+1, 3+2, 3+3,
>2x3 +1, 2x3 +2, 2x3 +3, 3x3 +1, 3x3 +2, 3x3 +3
>
>indicates to me that the concept of zero is absent and there are
>two different "3"s in the above. one that is used for the single
>digits and one that is used for the unit of the tens digits.
>

The concept of zero is not absent, as evidenced by the word {pagh} 
"zero".  Okrand's example addressed counting, and we seldom start 
counting subjects with zero. If I were to count how many books I have, I 
wouldn't begin with zero, I'd begin with one to represent the first 
book.

Perhaps the expanded counting would be:

0, 1, 2, 3 <or> 3+0, 3+1, 3+2, 3+3, ...

pItlh.

Klingon Ambassador,
Dawut (David)
[email protected]
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