tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jul 29 16:04:16 1998
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Re: KLBC - tuleghchugh jItlhaQmeH meq boSovbej
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC - tuleghchugh jItlhaQmeH meq boSovbej
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:57:41 -0700 (PDT)
---Burt Clawson wrote:
>
> KLBC - tuleghchugh jItlhaQmeH meq boSovbej. jImoHqu'mo' jItlhaQ! :-)
Ha ha ha. tlhIngan Darurchugh bImoHbe'.
> DaH tlhIngan Hol vIjatlh neH 'e' vInIDruplaw'. qatlh vInID?
> jIneHqu'mo' tlhIngan Hol vIghojchu'.
"I learn Klingon perfectly because I really want"? Because you're
needy? I don't quite understand what you mean by intransitive /neH/
here.
> chay' vIHaD? latlhpu' vIbej 'ej
> reH Doch chu' vInIDItaH 'ej QaghmeywIj vIlughmoH.
pov mIwvetlh.
> rut *MUSH*Daq chaHDI'
> vay''e' vIjatlh 'e' vInID. pIj jIqeq. puqwI' vIja',
Careful here with /vIjatlh/ and /vIja'/. Voragh's addendum to my post
explaining the possible objects of /ja'/ and /jatlh/ had valuable
information: /qajatlh/ means "I speak to you" but /vIjatlh/ only means
"I speak it," not "... to him" or "...to them."
> "puqbe'oyna'wI'
> SoH," 'ej muQoyDI' Hagh. ghorgh tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhlaHchu'?
> jISovbe'
> 'ach tugh jItul.
By "soon, I hope" you mean "It will be soon, I hope." We don't know
we can omit the /qaS 'e'/ in Klingon to the same effect. /tugh qaS
'e' vItul/.
> nuq vIneH? po'wI' vImoj. nem 'ar jIpo'ta'?
nem 'ar vIpo'ta' ... "how many years from now will I have been
skilled?"? A /-choH/ would help your meaning /jIpo'choHta'/ "I will
have become skilled."
> chaq cha'nem wejnem ghap.
bIpo'choHta'DI' chay' ghu' Daghov? nIyajlaHDI' po'wI'? SoH po' law'
HochHom po' puS net SovDI'? SeQpIr (Shakespeare) lut DamughlaHDI'?
*News Hour* DamughlaHDI', quqtaHvIS?
DaH bIpo'choH. bIyonchugh, DaH bIHaD 'e' DamevlaH 'ej bIjatlhlaH
<jIHvaD jatlh Qov <jIpo'>>. qavaqba'. bIyonbe'.
A month or so after I started Klingon I was probably <po'> -- by 1988
standards. At my first qep'a' I was considered <po'> -- by 1996
standards. We keep raising the bar. Set your goals, achieve them, and
set new ones. At qep'a' wejDIch a KLI member gave me a lecture in
Klingon, the essence of which was <not yIyon>. I didn't get his point
at the time, but now I do. Don't measure your skills against anyone
else's. Measure them against the greatest possible. And we don't
even KNOW what that is. Have you heard Morse code? It sounds to me
like a warbling scream. I can just discern the existence of beeps,
and because I know that's how it works, I can accept that there are
two different durations. Some people can hear it and write it -- and
send replies with the other hand! -- at that speed. Did Samuel Morse
imagine as he devised it that it could be sent that quickly? I doubt
it. How much can we do with Klingon? I don't know. But we're
definitely not there yet.
Have a look at the early postings of some of the current skilled
members. Always good for a laugh. Search for a name -- use the real
name -- in the earliest archive year and work forward until you get a
hit, to find the earliest post a person made.
bIvumqu'qangchugh bIpo'qu'choHlaH.
> 'Iv muQaH?
OVS yIqaw. muQaH 'Iv, qar'a'? DuQaHlaH Hoch. bIQaH'eghlaH je.
> HIQaHqu'ba'! (vaj Satlho'.) cha'nem
> nuqDaq vIghoS? qep'a'Daq vIghoS!
/qep'a' vIghoS/ - the object of ghoS doesn't take the locative.
cha'nem? maj. yInabchu'. qaSDI' qep'a' SochDIch, nuq Dachavta'?
==
Qov - Beginners' Grammarian
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