tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jul 15 15:44:48 1998
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Re: KLBC - pabwIj vIlughmoH 'ej mu'tlheghmey chu' vIqon
- From: Robyn Stewart <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC - pabwIj vIlughmoH 'ej mu'tlheghmey chu' vIqon
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
---Burt Clawson wrote:
>
> KLBC - 'e'
>
> Robyn Stewart wrote:
>
> > ---Burt Clawson wrote:
> >
>
> > > ghobe'. Sov'a' jupma' pagh'e'? "No. Does our friend Pagh know?"
> >
>
> > Hmm. Please answer this. Why did you put /-'e'/ on /pagh/? Do you
> > believe it is required there? It's not necessarily wrong, it's just
> > that you use /-'e'/ a lot and I want to make sure you know what you
> > are doing with it.
> >
>
> I'm not quite clear on how to use 'e' properly. I realize that it
is not
> required on a pronoun at the end of a sentence, it has just been
working out
> that way. When I use 'e' it is to put emphasis on it, I don't
understand
> how it used otherwise (though it seems clear that it is required in
certain
> sentence structures.)
It is only _required_ in the prounoun as to be (PTB) linking two noun
phrases, as in /baS gho 'oH Qeb'e'/.
It is recommended on the head noun of ambiguous relative clauses, like:
be' HoHbogh loD vImuS
Do I hate the man who killed the woman, or do I hate the woman he
killed?
All other uses are just for emphasis.
> jIH'e' = "ME ME ME and no one else!"
Be aware that just including jIH when it isn't required already has a
certain emphasis.
jIDoy' - I'm tired
jIDoy' jIH - As for me, I'm tired.
jIDoy' jIH'e' - "ME ME ME *I* am tired." -- kind of overkill
but
tlhIngan jIH - I am a Klingon (no added emphasis)
tlhIngan jIH'e' - *I* am a Klingon.
> ghaH'e' in my
> sentence about the Romulan ambassador = "I accidentally served [him]
dead
> qagh, but HE {the idiot} never noticed it."
Good, that works. HE (as opposed to any Klingon with half a brain)
never noticed it.
I used it in this last
> sentence, because I wanted to make sure everyone realized I was
talking
> about Pagh, frequent stand-in for the BG, rather than pagh, no one,
zero,
> nothing.
Ok, good. I might have used it in the same way in the same sentence.
It worked there. I wanted to be sure it was intention not coincidence.
Okrand doesnt use /-'e'/ for emphasis very much. If your personal
style uses a lot of exclamation points and caps, then your Klingon
might have more /-'e'/s. I use it more than most people. But *I*
_like_ EMPHASIZING things. :P
==
Qov - Beginners' Grammarian
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