tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Aug 03 14:33:30 1998
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Re: KLBC: lopno'
jang Qov:
> ---Christiane Scharf <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > cha' Hu' qaS lopno'. loQ lopno'vam vIDel.
>
> motlh wa' mu' 'oH <cha'Hu'>'e' 'ach mujbe'bej cha' mu'.
>
> > lopno' cher jup chu'.
>
> To me /cher/ seems to work better for a continuing institution or
> tradition. /qaSmoH/ vIchup.
>
> > qaSpa' lopno' not jupvam vISuchpu'. juHDaj Daq
> > vIDellu'.
>
> DoSlIj vIlegh 'ej bIpabHa'chu' jIjatlhlaHbe', 'ach mIwvetlh vIchupbe'.
> <jIHvaD juHDaj Daq Dellu'> yIjatlh. mIwvam nap law' mIwlij nap puS.
qatlh? Why is this simpler? After all, my version is even shorter.
>
>
> > HeHey vIghoSlI'. nom jupwI' juH vISam. mumer ngoDvam.
>
> motlh Daqmey DaSamlaHbe''a'?
ghobe'. *mole* vIrur. HeHey vItlha'. mubotchugh veHHey mujlaw' HewIj.
vaj lurghwIj vIchoH 'ej He chu' vItlha'.
>
>
> > qach vI'el. loQ jIpaS. SaH nuvpu' law'. HochHom nuvpu'vam vISov.
> > maja'chuq. tlhaQchoH ram.
> >
> > yapbe' *plate*mey.
>
> DaH *plate* mughbogh mu' wISov. wa' jengva', cha' ngop.
KGTDaq mu'meyvam lutu'lu'? wej paqvam vIghaj.
>
>
> > luSay'moHlI' jup 'ej vIQaDmoHlI' jIH.
>
> moHaq Dalo'Ha'law'. bIH _Say'moH wa' nuv. wa' Doch _lu_Say'moH nuv
> law'. 'ach ngop Daqelmo' bItoD'egh. law'chugh Say'moHlI'bogh jup, vaj
> qar moHaq. /ngop luSay'moHlI' chaH/. Huj, qar'a'?
ngop Say'moH wa' jup. jImuj. {lu-} vIchIlbe' reH 'e' vIbuSqu'mo', Hoch
wotvaD vIlo' vIneHchoHlaw' (I know this position of {reH} is not
confirmed and we have examples that place it differently, but to me it
feels better in this position).
>
>
> > bong wa' *plate* vIghor. Do'Ha'. vay' vIQaw'qa'be'meH vutpa' vImej.
> > HIq vItlhutlh 'e' vIwuq. 'ey'.
>
> jIHagh. motlh ngop ghorchoHpa' vay', HIq tlhutlhta'.
pIj taQ HovqIj net Sov.
>
>
> > jup loDnI' De'wI' tlhojlu'.
>
> mu' DawIvHa'pu''a'? /tlhojlu'/? "It was realized"? "One realized it"?
> chaq qaq /De'wI' tu' vay'/ pagh /SaH De'wI' net tlhoj/?
chupta'ghachlIj cha'DIch vIparHa'. (I think I've used {-ghach} for the
first time here... chollaw' Seng)
>
>
> > SIbI' De'wI' charghta' ghomHom. Quj QujtaH.
>
> wa' Quj luQujtaHchugh, vaj moHaq /lu-/ yIlo'.
wa' Quj Qujmey law' ghap QujtaH. Quj mI' vISovbe' 'ach...
_I_ treated {ghom} as singular. Is a {ghom} grammatically plural? If
this is the case, you contradict yourself. You don't comment on {De'wI'
charghta' ghom} but you do comment on {Quj QujtaH}. Both have the same
subject and both have a singular object.
>
>
> > ghomHomvam vImuv. jIQuj je. QujvaD jIQaplaw'. <moQHommeylIj tIchIl>
> 'oH
> > Qujvam pong'e'. tugh paw ramjep. taH lopno'. Dunqu'. Do'Ha' wa' vatlh
> > wejmaH rep jImejnIS.
> >
> >
> > DaH paS je. jIQaghqu'be' 'e' vItul.
>
> maj. choyajlaHba'mo' qajangmeH tlhIngan Hol vIlo'.
> jIQIjchu'be'ta'chugh yIghel.
qayaj 'ej qaghelpu'.
>
>
> ==
>
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>
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