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Re: (KLBC) vIqaDmo' Qov QInvam vIqon



I said, obviously too vaguely:
> > so, basically, you're saying that for {-moH}/{-lu'} there's an 
> > order of precedence when you analyze <verb>moHlu' in that you 
> > ALWAYS apply the {-moH} before the {-lu'}, right?
> 
Qov didn't understand what I meant (I think) so I try again:

It looks to me that in <verb>moHlu' the "indefinite subject"
has to be the subject of causation and never that of the root verb
(that's what I would get if I applied lu' to the verb first and
THEN said that someone [specific] caused someone [indefinite]
to <verb>)

> HovqIj beat you to it, but you had no problem with those.
> 
however, I have some problem with this:

> jIbel.  Hol veHmeyvaD ghoHtaHvIS po'wI'pu' Hol botlh ghojlI'chugh 
> latlhpu' vaj lo'laH wanI'.
> 
If, while experts argue about(?) the limits(?) of The Language ;),
others can learn the core(?) of The Language, then the event (= the
aforementioned arguing?) is useful.

is that close?

> > > veS tIvbe'law'taH roghvaH
> > veS tIvbe'lu'law'taHchugh, nuch Dalu'!
> 
> HeghlI'mo' ghupu' 'IQ chaH.
> 
ghu HoHbogh nuv'e' vIquvmoHlaHbe'.
SuvwI' neH HoH SuvwI''e' luquvmoHlu'.
Heghchugh ghu, veS Qojbe'lu'!

> In your subject:
> > (KLBC) vIqaDmo' Qov QInvam vIqon
> 
> You should say {muqaDmo'}, "she challenged me."
> 
grrrr... I really have to learn some of those replacement proverbs!!!

HomDoq



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