tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Nov 25 11:55:33 1997
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(KLBC) vIqaDmo' Qov QInvam vIqon
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: (KLBC) vIqaDmo' Qov QInvam vIqon
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:55:23 CST
I suggested:
> > {nguvlu'} something is painted
> > {vInguvmoHlu'} I cause something to be painted
> >
Qov corrected me:
> I know charghwI' knows his {-lu'} better than that, so I'm going to
> step away from the 'objectless' question and explain plain old {-lu'}
> to anyone who has been confused by all this ranting. What is below
> is nothing new, not controversial, just an explanation of {-lu'} the
> way it appears in TKD.
so, basically, you're saying that for {-moH}/{-lu'} there's an order
of precedence when you analyze <verb>moHlu' in that you ALWAYS apply
the {-moH} before the {-lu'}, right?
but is there any such order for, e.g., {-nIS}/{-moH}?
can <verb>nISmoH mean both
"she makes him need to verb" AND
"he needs to make her verb"
or can it be only one of them and if so which one?
> For practice, rewrite these sentences so they have the same object,
> but an indefinite subject, using {-lu'}. Careful! I've included some
> trick ones.
>
I'll try..
> DuparHa' vay'.
DaparHa'lu'.
> nIbejlaw' nuvpu'.
Dabejlu'law'.
> vay' luleghbej.
vay' leghlu'bej.
> lIqopta' vay'
boqoplu'ta'.
> chaH HoHnIS vay'
chaH luHoHnISlu'.
> megh neHqu' vay'
megh neHqu'lu'.
> 'uQ vutlaH vay'
mu'tlheghvam vIchoHQo'.
> De'wI' tI'lI' vay'
De'wI' tI'lu'lI'.
> veS tIvbe'law'taH roghvaH
veS tIvbe'lu'law'taHchugh, nuch Dalu'!
> muQopmoH Qu'
vIQopmoHlu'.
HomDoq