tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu May 29 06:32:45 1997
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Re: 'etlh 'oH yIn'e'
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>Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
>
>charghwI'vo':
>Since this doesn't have KLBC on it, I'm taking the liberty of
>leaping in.
>
>On Mon, 26 May 1997 07:51:39 -0700 (PDT) [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>> jagh DaneHchugh naSbej maH
>
>They bent the grammar here, since {naSbej maH} should obviously
>be {manaSbej}, but that throws off the rhythm and rhyme (which
>is why I HATE editing poetry). "If you want an enemy, we are
>definitely vicious."
>
>> jup DaneHcugh mamatlhtaH
>
>You misspelled {DaneHchugh}. "If you want a friend, then we are
>continuously loyal." [How "we" can be one friend, I'll leave up
>to your imagination.]
The lack of plural markers doesn't bother me; Klingon plural marking is
optional. What puzzles me is the shift from singular to plural in the
addressee. Before, the line was "rejeychu'", with a plural audience, now
all of a sudden we're talking to only one person?
>> yIyajHa'Qo' yIn wImaS
>
>"Don't misunderstand. We prefer life." [They apparently don't
>want to punctuate.]
This should be peyajHa'Qo' if we're going to plurals.
>> 'ach maHeghchugh 'ej manaS,
>
>[except for this comma] "But if we die and we are vicious,"
Notably not quite the same as the English you gave, which means "if we die
and [if] we are vicious." The Klingon is "If we die, and by the way also
we're vicious..." I'm pretty sure Klingon would have to repeat the -chugh
to make both conditions.
>> baS 'oH yIn'e' mayInDI'
>
>"When we live, life is metal."
- -taHvIS makes more sense than -DI' in this sentence though.
>> 'etlh moj yIn batlh maHeghDI'
>
>"When we die honorably, life becomes a sword."
While -DI' is right here.
~mark
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