Marian Schwartz wrote: > > qoror here. Just wondering... has Okrand ever made any clarification on > what a qIvon might be? MSN, for instance? Nope. However, the Okuda Omnipedia identifies a "QiVon" as being another word for knee, which we already have as {qIv}. I've always liked the idea that a {qIvon} is an elbow... -mIqIraH