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RE: Catholic taymey KLBC

jatlh [email protected]:

> Catholics have rites and Klingons have rites.  Could there be Klingon
> Catholic rites?  This more vocabulary question rather than a spiritual one.
>  I am currently going though RCIA(see below) and have gone through some
> rites.  Here are some rites and translations of them:

Well, this is really out of my field.  I'm not Catholic, any kind of 
Christian, or any other religion for that matter, so I can only advise you on 
the literal translations, not the best meanings.  There are others on the list 
who have done much more extensive Biblical work in Klingon.

> Rite of Welcoming
> laj'a' tay

You've said, "Does the ceremony accept?"  You could say {lajmeH tay} "Rite for 
accepting."  Or even {muvmeH tay} "Rite for joining."  Oh, wait!  There's 
{muvtay}, isn't there?

> Right of Christian Initiation for Adults
> <qrISt>tlha'wI muvtay tay nenwI'pu'vaD

Don't transliterate names into Klingon.  Christ was never called {qrISt} by 
anyone other than you and perhaps a few Klingonists.  Just use the word in 
quotes or asterisks.

Don't use {-vaD} unless you are making it be the beneficiary of a *verb*.  Use 
the possessive for what you mean here.

nenwI' "Christian" muvtay.

> Rite of Recognition of Continuing Convertion
> ghovghach boghqa'taHghach tay

Heh . . . That means {charghtaH "Christianity"}, doesn't it?

You've said "Recognization's Continual-rebirth Rite."  Don't use {-ghach} for 
something serious like this unless you have an intervening suffix; see HolQeD 
3:3 and 3:4 for a detailed explanation of {-ghach} (I've summarized here many 
times, but I don't have the time right now to do it again).

I might suggest something like

choHmoHtaHghach ghovmeH tay
Rite for Recognizing Continuous Conversion.

> Rite of Sending
> ngeH tay

We're not allowed to invent compounds of nouns and verbs, but I'd bet that's 
what the Klingons would come up with.  Without this liberty, though, I'd say

ngeHmeH tay
Rite for Sending.

-- 
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
Stardate 97180.0

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