tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jun 25 09:13:04 1997
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Re: Requesting Phrasebook
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>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 21:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: [email protected] (Adam Ophir Shapira)
>
>Hello,
>
> I am trying to learn Klingon. I have a copy of all of the
>classic materials for learning Klingon (those including THE
>KLINGON DICTIONARY, as well as the two casettes, CONVERSATIONAL
>KLINGON and POWER KLINGON).
>
> However, there is something that I need in order to
>successfully learn the language that appears not to be
>availiable from any of these two sources. I need a
>phrasebook.
>
> THE KLINGON DICTIONARY is inadequate for this purpose,
>because it truly appears to be a dictioanry, not a textbook,
>and not a phrasebook. It is clearly more suited for
>reference than for anything else.
I suppose it depends on what you want to learn, and more importantly on how
you learn. I learned from the dictionary, and can hold conversations in
Klingon, write in it, read it, speak it real-time, etc. Phrase-books have
their uses, but also their limitations. If you're not careful, you can
wind up able to speak only the phrases the book saw fit to teach you, and I
like to be able to say what *I* want, not what the book wants me to say. I
find phrases useful, though, since they help me remember vocabulary. So I
can take the phrase apart and use its words on my own. But that's how I
learn. You have your own style
The dictionary is a very good tool, and irreplaceable if you want to speak
the language. You can memorize phrases until the targhmey come home, but
unless you know the grammar you'll never say anything but those phrases.
And how many times can you order boiling worm wine before that gets boring
and you want to discuss something else?
> On the other hand, the casette, CONVERSATIONAL KLINGON,
>has phrases in it, in an order that might be very helpful
>for me to learn ... only I can't use it as a phrase book,
>nor as a source from which to construct one, for a simple
>reason. It contains absolutely *no* information on how
>to *write down* the transliterated Klingon.
Then read the dictionary, which does.
~mark
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