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RE: KLBC: How do I say "I see us"?



January 24, 1997 2:25 PM EST, jatlh 'eQ:

> (1) could one say {qaqipchuq} in the sense "I and you hit each other"?
>     Or would I have to say {maqipchuq} "We hit each other", or maybe even=

This would be correct.  But be sure you always capitalize your {I}s!  
{maqIpchuq}.

>     {soH maqipchuq jiH} meaning something like "I and you, we hit each
>     other"?

Yes, but both are subjects, and must go in the subject position.  {maqIpchuq 
jIH SoH je}.

> (2) When I whant to express something like "I see us" is {maH jIlegh} the=
> 
>     correct useage? Or should I use another verb prefix/pronoun?

There is no correct prefix for this combination.  It is not clear how one 
would say this.  Perhaps {maH jIlegh} could be used, perhaps it would be {maH 
vIlegh}.  There's no way to tell.  But that's not really a problem, as there 
are few situations where you really *need* to say this!

> (3) Does it matter where in a sentence a noun appears if it is modified
>     with type 5 noun suffix (exept -'e' of course). Must it be in a
>     special position (i.e. before or after the object-verb-subject
>     construction)?

Yes.  These nouns always appear before the object of a verb, if any, but 
usually after an adverbial or timestamp, if any.

wa'Hu' qachDaq puq legh yaS.
The officer saw the child in the building.

There's no other place you could put {qachDaq}.

> (4) How do I prounce a double glottal stop? I mean IS there a way, or any=
> 
>     special way to pronouce it? Could one tell these to sentences apart,
>     if someone said one of them? Just wondering.
>        {nupaw'a' Duj}  Has the ship arrived?
>        {nupaw''a' Duj}  Has the ship collided?

Yes, you can tell them apart, when said correctly.  In the first one, the 
first glottal stop is not a part of the verb {paw}.  You could, if you wanted, 
extend it, like this: {nupawwwwww'a'}.  But in the second one, you MUST cut 
off the {w} sound.  You cannot extend it.

The effect is usually a longer pause for the glottal stop when you've got two 
of them.

-- 
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
Stardate 97067.7


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