tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 27 13:25:31 1997
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De bello klingonico
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: De bello klingonico
- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:22:14 -0600 (CST)
~mark wrote:
: >From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
: >jatlh Qaan maS:
: >veSmey law' vISuv 'ej batlh jISuv!
: >
: >Notice that I took the {-ta'} off of {vISuv}. Since he's talking about the
: >time that he fought all these wars, he hadn't already finished them at that
: >time. Remember, the time context is {ben law'} and {Suboghpa'}. If you're
: >still unsure of this, refer back to TKD section 4.2.7.
:
: Hmm. But can you fight a war? You can in English, but does it make sense
: in Klingon? It may. I'm less opposed to this than to some other proposals
: for object-places. Obviously you can fight an enemy, but the battle
: itself?
Fortunately, Klingon provides a variety of ways to fight a war (other than Suv):
ghob do battle (v.)
'ang'eghQo' quv Hutlhbogh jagh neH ghobtaHvIS ghaH
Only an enemy without honor refuses to show himself in battle. TKW
noH ghoblu'DI' yay quv law' Hoch quv puS
In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW
ghobchuq loDnI'pu'
"The Brothers Battle One Another" (title of the famous Kahless & Morath
statue) KCD
Qoj make war (v.)
No attestations in canon.
vID be belligerent (v.)
No attestations in canon.
And the corresponding nouns are:
may' battle (n.)
may' yIghuH
Battle Alert! [i.e. "Red Alert!"] ST3
may' ngeb tIv Hoch
Everyone enjoys a mock battle. CK
may'Daq jaHDI' SuvwI' juppu'Daj lonbe'
When a warrior goes to a battle, he does not abandon his friends. TKW
may'meyDajvo' Haw'be' tlhIngan
A Klingon does not run away from his battles. TKW
narghbe'chugh SuvwI' qa' taH may'
If the warrior's spirit has not escaped, the battle is still going on. TKW
wo' choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'
"... ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat." TKW
*jIbechrup may' vIloS
"I am ready to suffer battle. I wait for them." (TNG: The Icarus Factor)
[lit. "I am ready to suffer. I wait for battle."]
noH war (n.)
noH ghoblu'DI' yay quv law' Hoch quv puS
In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW
noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu'
"Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory..." TKW
veS war, warfare (n.)
notlh veS 'a toH manotlhchoH chenmoH (??)
War is obsolete... as we are in danger of becoming. ST6
taghbej mu'qaD veS
Curse-warfare has definitely begun. PK
veSDuj warship (n.)
"A space vessel equipped with offensive weapons and suitable for battle."
(Okrand's definition on MSN)
-- Voragh