tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Feb 16 20:53:16 1997

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Glen Proechel



Glen Proechel is currently occupied with his missionary work in Siberia.  He 
was home the last month and a half, but is headed back Tuesday.

Glen is very much concerned with Klingon and has devoted much of his recent 
years to it.  He has not joined this list, because he doesn't have the 
equipment to be online -- and is not very "knowledgable" on computer's in 
general.  I have been forwarding "some" of the list contents that I felt he'd 
find interesting or would be related to issues that he was concerned with.  I 
can't fax much to Russia and I can't afford to send much via mail.

Glen is my friend and when he asks me to post things "I WILL".  If I see 
something that I think would be nice to share with the list, I'll post it.  
It's an open forum right?

Enough said I hope.  

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From: 	[email protected] on behalf of eric d. zay
Sent: 	Sunday, February 16, 1997 4:44 PM
To: 	Multiple recipients of list
Subject: 	Re: "Elder" musings



> On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, DaQtIq wrote:
> |jIHvaD jang ghunchu'wI':
> |>QIv'a' loDnI'lI'?  chaq latlh Daghaj 'ej QIvbogh loDnI' DaqeltaH.
> |
> |ghobe'. cha' puqloD neH ghaj vavwI'. boghpa' loDnI'wI' jIboghmo',
> |loDnI' nIv jIH. loDnI' QIv ghaH.
> |
> |I'm using this adjective as a convenient and simple way to express
> |younger and older brothers. No basis in canon, just my hypothesis.
> 
> So, how *do* we say the "elder brother"? For Klingons this is not a
trivial
> matter. Kurn had to give into Worf's wishes on more than one occasion
> because he was "the elder brother". (As the oldest surviving male member
of
> the family, this made him the head of the disgraced House of Mogh as
well,
> such as it is.)

This point would seem to support DaQtIq's use of *nIv* for "elder" brother.
 I think that is the point he is trying to make.

SuSvaj





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