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Re: "Elder" musings



ghItlh SuSvaj:
>ghItlh Voragh:
>> On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, DaQtIq wrote:
>> |jIHvaD jang ghunchu'wI':
>> |>QIv'a' loDnI'lI'?  chaq latlh Daghaj 'ej QIvbogh loDnI' DaqeltaH.
>> |
>> |ghobe'. cha' puqloD neH ghaj vavwI'. boghpa' loDnI'wI' jIboghmo',
>> |loDnI' nIv jIH. loDnI' QIv ghaH.
>> |
>> |I'm using this adjective as a convenient and simple way to express
>> |younger and older brothers. No basis in canon, just my hypothesis.
>> 
>> So, how *do* we say the "elder brother"? For Klingons this is not a
>trivial
>> matter. Kurn had to give into Worf's wishes on more than one occasion
>> because he was "the elder brother". (As the oldest surviving male member
>of
>> the family, this made him the head of the disgraced House of Mogh as
>well,
>> such as it is.)
>
>This point would seem to support DaQtIq's use of *nIv* for "elder" brother.
> I think that is the point he is trying to make.

hmmmm... Not quite my point. Using <nIv> for 'elder' and <QIv> for 'younger'
is what i'm *guessing* could be the way "real" Klingons express that idea,
but that we don't really know. I, too, want to know for sure, but given
no instances in canon, i've been using this. Obviously, it's a hindsight
usage, since i had to explain. Ah well...

- DaQtIq



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