tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Feb 03 06:25:34 1997
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Re: Phrases
- From: Ivan A Derzhanski <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Phrases
- Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:24:14 -0800
- Organization: Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science
- References: <[email protected]>
Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> >From: Irene Gates <[email protected]>
> >>>>> [Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved.] [...]
> >>> My entry:
> >>> muSHa'lu'chugh 'ach lujlu'chugh, ghu' QaQ law'; not muSHa'lu'chugh,
> >>> ghu' QaQ puS.[...]
> >I've seen entire {-meH}-clauses in there, but I don't suppose they
> >were canon. ~mark, vuDlIj yIghaqneS.
>
> vIlajqanglaw' jIH. Maybe because we need all the help we can get
> in getting stuff we can use with that strange law'/puS construction.
I can't help thinking that _tKD_ presents the most basic form of the
comparative construction and that actually one can have more stuff
in both halves, but it's hard to be sure, of course.
> I don't recall canon either, though. But isn't that sentence about
> drinking fake ale and drinking water in a law'/puS form?
<copying it from SuStel's post>
{tlhutlhmeH HIq ngeb qaq law' bIQ qaq puS.} Hm. Should that not be
{tlhutlhlu'meH ...}? Otherwise who's the subject of the purpose clause?
And what about (quoting from memory) {QamvIS Hegh qaq law' torvIS yIn
qaq puS} `Better to die standing that to live kneeling', with {-vIS}-
clauses (short for {-taHvIS}, we are told) in both branches of the
comparative?
> >toH! QongDaqDaq Hegh luneH'a' tlhInganpu'?
>
> Dying in action, eh?
not QongDaqmey lo' tlhInganpu' 'e' yIlIjQo'. QongtaHvIS ravDaq Qot,
nga'chuqtaHvIS ravDaq Qotlaw' je. QongDaq ngaS lengbogh tera'nganpu'
ma'meH mebjuHmey neH luchenmoHlu'bogh.
--'Iwvan
--
"mIw'e' lo'lu'ta'bogh batlh tlhIHvaD vIlIH [...]
poH vIghajchugh neH jIH, yab boghajchugh neH tlhIH"
(Lewis Carroll, "_Snark_ wamlu'")
Ivan A Derzhanski <[email protected], [email protected]>
Dept for Math Lx, Inst for Maths & CompSci, Bulg Acad of Sciences
Home: cplx Iztok bl 91, 1113 Sofia, Bulgaria