tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Dec 26 07:34:41 1997
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Re: KLBC: -vaD
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: -vaD
- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 10:34:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
- Priority: NORMAL
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:06:59 -0800 (PST) "Scott D. Randel"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Voragh wrote:
>
> > "This suffix indicates that the noun to which it is attached is in some
> >way the beneficiary of the action, the person or thing for whom or for which the
> >activity occurs.
> > "While the object of the verb is the recipient of the action, the indirect
> >object may be considered the beneficiary. In a Klingon sentence, the indirect object
> >precedes the object and is suffixed with the Type 5 noun suffix {-vaD} `for, intended
> >for.' The suffix may be attached to either a noun or a pronoun." (TKD 180)
>
> Perhaps:
>
> SormeyvaD Sajatlh
> "I speak to all of you for the trees." Or have I said "I speak to all
> you trees"? How do I make it clear that {Sormey} is the indirect
> object, when the d.o. is contained in the prefix with the subject?
What you have said is, "I speak you-all to the trees." Okrand
has explicitly explained that with the verb {jatlh}, the direct
object is the thing spoken (a speech, a language, a lecture,
etc.). The indirect object, indicated by {-vaD} is the person
spoken to.
Different verbs have different relationships to direct and
indirect objects. {jatlh} is one of the few Klingon verbs for
which this relationship has been thoroughly addressed by Okrand.
> ---------------
> Scott D. Randel
> tera'ngan thlIngan Hol ghojwI'
charghwI', taghwI' pabpo' ru'
Temporary Beginner's Grammarian, December 20-30