tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Dec 17 13:37:03 1997
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Re: KLBC: Short and Easy
In article <[email protected]>, Qov
<[email protected]> writes
>At 00:03 97-12-17 -0800, James Coupe wrote:
>
>}Okay, so can I say:
>}
>}Hoch nganpu' tIHoH, vaj yaymaj lutmey tIja'
>}
>}which is supposed to say:
>}
>}"Kill all of the inhabitants, then tell stories of our victory"
>}
>}Can I use *vaj* as a conjunction like this? Just like "and"?
>
>{vaj} can be used as a conjunction, but meaning "thus," "therefore," "as a
>consequence," not the same "then" as in "the following time."
>
The translation of Alan's response suggested otherwise:
wa'DIch yuQvetlhDaq nejwI' wIngeH muD QulmeH vaj wa'DIch mID wIchenmoH
"First, we send a probe to that planet in order to research it then we
build the first colony"
>}I actually wanted to say:
>}
>}"then sing songs of our victory"
>}
>}but I can't find sing or song in the vocab lists or the new words list.
>}
>}Are they in KGT because if they are I may have to consider trying to
>}find a copy of it somewhere in England (I hope it's been released here)?
>
>They are, although we've known them a lot longer than that. {bom} is the
>noun "song" or "chant" and also the verb "sing" or "chant." {bom mu'} is
>lyrics,
Not doubting the truth of that but, to me, it seems quite interesting.
Being as *mu'* is "word" (I think) lyrics is "word of the song" when it
would seem more logical to have been *bom mu'mey*
> and {QoQ} is "music." I find the latter amusing becaue it's the
>only Klingon word that actually stimulates my gag reflex. Something about
>the shape of my throat for the {o} and the two {Q}mey, vIjatlhchoHDI' HuH
>vIghupnIS.
>
>How about: {Hoch nganpu' tIHoH. wIta'ta'DI' yaymaj bommey tIbom.}
>"Kill all the inhabitants. When we have done it, sing songs of our victory."
>
So would *wIta'ta'DI'* be an acceptable translation for "Afterwards" at
the start of a sentence?
>BTW James, I find your signature offensive. It isn't enjoyable to have to
>read that in every message. I would appreciate it if you would use a
>different one for KLBC postings.
>
Apologies. I didn't realise that setting it where I had set it (which
was for more personal e-mails and other areas) had filtered into the
Klingon bit. (Basically because I am stupid and forgot that I had set
up the Klingon Mailing List to come in as if it were a newsgroup and
thus would be subject to the other group's sigs).
jIQIp
jIQoSqu'bej
vIta'qa'Qo'
jIquvmoHHa''eghta'
I'm stupid
I'm very sorry
I won't do it again
I have dishonored myself
I saw *-'egh* as the suffix for oneself and wondered whether than could
be used with *pong* for "I name/call myself X" - like the reflexive verb
s'appeler in French.
*James* vIpong'egh <with or without a 'redundant' *jIJ*>
I call myself James (at least, until I can think of a good Klingon
alternative)
I've probably over-looked something really stupid or a Klingon
Grammarian would have picked that one up before now.
--
James Coupe (remove some crap to reply)