tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Apr 21 14:40:54 1997
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RE: KLBC: Trying
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: Trying
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 13:19:17 UT
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From: [email protected] on behalf of Mark Beal
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 1997 3:25 PM
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Subject: KLBC: Trying
> tlhIngan ghltlhwI' jIDunbe' jISov
It would be easier if you included an English translation of what you're
trying to say, until you become a little more proficient in Klingon. I
*think* I follow you, but if I make a mistake, I cannot look up the English to
see what you *meant*.
I think you tried to say "I am not a wonderful Klingon writer." A {ghItlhwI'}
is someone who makes marks in some sort of medium, and a {tlhIngan ghItlhwI'}
is a Klingon who does this. Not exactly what you had in mind. When you are
talking about the language Klingon, you must always call it {tlhIngan Hol}
"Klingon language." I'd just say {tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI'} "Klingon language
speaker."
Read over TKD 6.3 on "to be" phrases. You want to say "I am not a wonderful
Klingon speaker." Also see TKD 4.4 on how verbs may be used adjectivally.
tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI' Dun jIHbe'.
This is awfully noun-centric, though, and I'd recommend a sentence more
direct:
tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhchu'be'.
I do not speak Klingon perfectly.
This addresses the fact that you speak it imperfectly, not that you are not a
wonderful person speaks Klingon!
> 'ach jIH jInIDtaH.
Remember, the subject always comes last.
'ach jInIDtaH jIH.
You can even leave off the pronoun:
'ach jInIDtaH.
> reH peDub'eghbej.
You mean "Always improve yourselves"? This is okay, though I really don't
feel comfortable putting {-bej} or other Type 6 verb suffixes on imperatives.
There's no rule against it, but putting suffixes indicating how sure you are
of the accuracy of the word doesn't seem to fit in with commanding someone.
> tlhIngan Hol Wa'DIch Suvang chay' ??
This I *really* don't know what you were trying to say! Maybe "How did all of
you start learning Klingon?"
The question words {chay'}, {qatlh}, and {ghorgh} always come at the beginning
of a sentence.
chay' tlhIngan Hol boghojchoH?
How did all of you begin to speak Klingon?
> (answers in klingon, only if easy, in english otherwise. :) )
hmmm . . .
jIqawchu'be'.
paq vItu'.
vIje'.
qaStaHvIS wa' DIS vIlaDbe'.
paqghomwIjDaq tlhIngan Hol mu'ghom vItu'.
vIlaD.
Daj 'e' vIQub, vaj Hol vIHaDchoH.
tugh tlhIngan Hol yejHaD vItu'.
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
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