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Re: pIqaDqoq (was: diphthongs)



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>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:38:45 -0800
>From: [email protected] (Denny Shortliffe)
>
>>
>>jatlh qrlIH:
>>
>>>  >The font available from the KLI is just a fan 
>>>  >alphabet; IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL KLINGON WRITING SYSTEM!
>>>  
>>>  This appears to me to be somewhat muddy thinking.  How can you 
>>>  distinguish
>>>  the validity of a fan writing system from a fan language?
>>
>>Well, as far as the KLI goes, I believe that the official policy is that 
>>anything done by Marc Okrand is canon tlhIngan Hol; anything else done is 
>>theory and noncanonical.
>
>I haven't seen a copy but I understand that the KLI puts
>out a 'journal' (HolQeD?) which contains (so it is said) some new words
>and rules that have been (discoverd? created? formulated?).  I find it
>unlikely that all these were the product of Marc's admittedly fertile
>mind.  Does that mean that all articles in this mag (and, equally, any
>other pronouncements from KLI personnel &/or adherents are "theory and
>non-canonoical"?

Um, the stuff in HolQeD that's given as canonical is given so because,
well, it IS canonical.  It was written or spoken by Marc Okrand, the one
and only, who happened at the time to choose HolQeD as his vehicle.  There
are articles by other people in the journal, to be sure, but any proposed
grammar interpretations in those are definitely the products of their
respective authors and should be treated as such.  But articles with
bylines that say "Marc Okrand" or which are transcriptions of interviews
with him... how can you argue with that, if you're taking Okrand as your
source?  Look at charghwI''s list of words.  They *all*, every one of them,
were confirmed by Marc Okrand in a book or HolQeD article or by
well-attested personal communication (and BTW, he has seen the list too,
lest you think he doesn't know what we say he says).  Why, if Okrand
invented 1400-odd words for the dictionary, is it so hard to accept that a
few dozen more that appeared in HolQeD could have come from him also?

~mark

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