tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Nov 15 08:46:08 1996
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Re: diphthongs (was Re: <K'>vaD)
- From: "Lee Lewis" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: diphthongs (was Re: <K'>vaD)
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:16:34 -0500
> From: Denny Shortliffe <[email protected]>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: diphthongs (was Re: <K'>vaD)
> Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 3:38 AM
> >
> >jatlh Sustel...
> > We do NOT know anything at all about {pIqaD} beyond what it looks
like!
> > We're not even sure of that! The font available from the KLI is
just a fan
> > alphabet; IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL KLINGON WRITING SYSTEM!
>
jatlh K'rlikh...
> This appears to me to be somewhat muddy thinking. How can you
distinguish
> the validity of a fan writing system from a fan language? Or is it
your
> thesis that, since Marc Okrand was *PAID* to create the language
for
> Paramount, that it's *NOT* a fan language, even though the bulk of
the
> speakers/writers (I'm counting numbers here -- I'm a democrat) are
fans?
jatlh K'Pach...
It seems to me that everyone keeps thinking of Klingons as one
homogenous group, with one language, one set of customs, one style of
writing, one physical appearance, etc.
I think Klingons would have a variety of cultural backgounds, even as
Terrans do. There would be different languages, customs, styles of
writing, etc. Of course, we as fans must try to limit ourselves to
*some* degree or we will have total chaos, but if groups of us get
together and form varying "dialects" of tlhIngan Hol, or set certain
standards for the use of the various fonts that are available, or if
we have different "houses" or "thelds" with individual customs ---
all this only adds to the "reality" (or illusion thereof) for all of
us. The homogenous culture concept is unrealistic.
To clarify this some; if someone develops a persona which they claim
is of Andorean/Klingon ancestry and that their language is a blend of
these... this is getting ridiculous and falls outside of "ST
reality." However, if someone claims to be a Klingon of the house of
[place house name here], and that their house historically observes
Empire Union Day by giving a close friend a gift, or by wearing all
red... this isn't getting too far fetched; and may even add some
realism and texture to our "Klingon lives."
I hope I haven't gone too far out of topic - language & culture are
so closely related. And I sure I will get some repsonses.
I am wondering how one might say: "I have stirred up a hornet's
nest"
Hornet ... 'aw'wI'Hommey (small stingers?)
Stir up .. anger... make angry ... QeHmoH
Help!
K'Pach