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Re: KBLC: some questions



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>Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:01:18 -0700
>From: Dave Yeung <[email protected]>

These have probably been answered already, but I'm behind on my email so
may not have seen the answers.

>wa' mu'tlheghDaq cha' <adverbials> lo'laH'a' vay'?
>i.e., {chaq bong qIppu'} "She accidentally hit him."

choyu'chugh, "HIja'" vIja'.  I don't know of canon offhand, but I wouldn't
be surprised if there were.

>tlhIngan Hol vIlo'taHvIS chay' "prayer" vIjatlh?  {mu'naD} vIlo'.

"mu'naD" vIpar.  "prayer" is a word with a lot of meanings.  In its basic
form, it refers to requests, not praises.  Praise is just "naD", no need
for "mu'"; requests probably use something with tlhob.

>wa' mu'tlheghDaq cha' lengwI'mey tu'lu''a'?
>i.e., {vIchoHHa'laHbe'} "I cannot undo the change."
>Is it permissible to use both {-Ha'} and {-be'} or, for that matter, use 
>a rover twice in the same verb?

choyu'chugh, "HIja'" vIja'.  This time I'm pretty sure there IS canon.  We
certainly have canon for two rovers in one word: pIHoHqu'vIpbe', in TKD.  I
would accept this for all rovers, even the same rover twice.  Well,
actually only the "true" rovers, which actually rove.  I would not expect
to see -Ha' or -Qo' twice on the same verb (but -Ha'Qo' probably exists in
canon, in a negative command on a -Ha' verb).

>Some words have more than one meaning.  {pIqaD} also means "we challenge 
>you", and {HIja'} means "you (imp) tell me!"  Is there a reason for this?

Possibly, but not necessarily.  There are lots of English words that mean
more than one thing, whose reasons are coincidence or a relationship lost
in history.

~mark

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